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Old 12-01-2012, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by senna
Why are you braking before Bishop?
to make sure fiat gonna turn-in.
Old 12-01-2012, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mdrums
Good question!
The gearing / acceleration of his fiat flat footed from 13 would put him at too high a rate of speed through bishops.

He flat foots it out of 13, sets car with a slight brake then applies constant throttle through bishops to keep rear planted

pretty safe way for a car without a big wing to keep it planted

Fiat drives a bit different than our beetles
Old 12-01-2012, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzone
The gearing / acceleration of his fiat flat footed from 13 would put him at too high a rate of speed through bishops.

He flat foots it out of 13, sets car with a slight brake then applies constant throttle through bishops to keep rear planted

pretty safe way for a car without a big wing to keep it planted

Fiat drives a bit different than our beetles
Now Randy is apologizing for Rad Ian took the Boss through Bishops flat on street tires at an exit speed of 117 mph so your Fiat needs downforce to go thru Bishops is wrong what the Fiat needs is a driver with man bearings

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Old 12-01-2012, 11:10 PM
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My wanna be Aero Beetle goes through Bishops as fast or faster than the Fiat. The Fiat is seriously awesome though...wish I had it.
Old 12-01-2012, 11:45 PM
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The Ian, the GT3DE, the M3EvoBr drive flatout.

I just need to drive as fast as needed for 1st place at a Time Trial, and well below my pace at DE Cup to run with the pack.

@85Gold, 10 minutes before my track session, there was heavy rain, you're right, the Boss in dry conditions is faster than the Fiat in wet Sebring. Feel free to register da Boss in TTU, easy trophy against the Fiat.
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Originally Posted by senna
Why are you braking before Bishop?
Self preservation on wet Bishop.
Old 12-02-2012, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wanna911
Why Jenk Why would you get him started?
b/c the fiat would go up in flames if he tried to consistently do that for 12 straight laps. watch all his DE videos, he limps around claiming to be wating on others but its so the fiat want blow up after 3 laps of hard consistent driving.
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Aero Beetle boys, invest on temp probe and check your engines, or drive blind. Fiat plays honest, check your gauges, on data acquisition...
Old 12-02-2012, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mdrums
My wanna be Aero Beetle goes through Bishops as fast or faster than the Fiat. The Fiat is seriously awesome though...wish I had it.
Really?!

Originally Posted by jenk12m
b/c the fiat would go up in flames if he tried to consistently do that for 12 straight laps. watch all his DE videos, he limps around claiming to be wating on others but its so the fiat want blow up after 3 laps of hard consistent driving.
That or the tank is big enogh for 12 laps at 10/10th. at least I'venever seen it happen.

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Aero Beetle boys, invest on temp probe and check your engines, or drive blind. Fiat plays honest, check your gauges, on data acquisition...
We're fine. We breake some stuff but we don't driver around paranoid like Fiat drivers.
Old 12-02-2012, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
The Ian, the GT3DE, the M3EvoBr drive flatout.

@85Gold, 10 minutes before my track session, there was heavy rain, you're right, the Boss in dry conditions is faster than the Fiat in wet Sebring. Feel free to register da Boss in TTU, easy trophy against the Fiat.
I call BS, I looked at NASA TT times for that event and Mark did not mark it as a rain session. As you are fond of saying no data it didnt happen. Fast times were also very close both days.

I didn't say da Boss was faster at Sebring just faster through Bishops on street tires

You going to bring the Fiat to the 2013 OLOA and show us how it's done.



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Old 12-03-2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 85Gold
I call BS, I looked at NASA TT times for that event and Mark did not mark it as a rain session. As you are fond of saying no data it didnt happen. Fast times were also very close both days.

I didn't say da Boss was faster at Sebring just faster through Bishops on street tires

You going to bring the Fiat to the 2013 OLOA and show us how it's done.



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Just check the session right before at mylaps.com, it was a Club Race and it was on downpour conditions. We ran on drying conditions but still wet. Sunday was dry, and super hot and humid (98 degrees), faster lap times for everyone, except my Fiat as it had already entered limp mode for the rest of the event due to a sensor failure at the end of Saturday.

OLOA 2013 is Cayman or Cayenne. Easy Podium in class. Fiat cannot take the abuse of OLOA 2013, that's like 5 years worth of use in one week.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Just check the session right before at mylaps.com, it was a Club Race and it was on downpour conditions. We ran on drying conditions but still wet. Sunday was dry, and super hot and humid (98 degrees), faster lap times for everyone, except my Fiat as it had already entered limp mode for the rest of the event due to a sensor failure at the end of Saturday.

OLOA 2013 is Cayman or Cayenne. Easy Podium in class. Fiat cannot take the abuse of OLOA 2013, that's like 5 years worth of use in one week.
WHAT I thought da Fiat was far superior to Aero Beetles which have no problem running the OLOA and finishing. Is there a ***** in the Fiats armor.

I vote for da Pepper Wagon, see if it can take down a minivan.

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Fiat is too low for public roads, and OLOA would ruin the expensive underneath carbon fiber and fiberglass parts. If OLOA could allow trailers to avoid road use, it would be fine, but that would take the fun out of OLOA.

Pepper TT is an easy podium. 1st place would take a better effort, that's what EvoMSit is for, combined with monster size MPSS.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Fiat is too low for public roads, and OLOA would ruin the expensive underneath carbon fiber and fiberglass parts.
That translates into massive downforce provided by F1 trickle down technology aero tricks under the car.
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Originally Posted by mdrums
That translates into massive downforce provided by F1 trickle down technology aero tricks under the car.
Correct, but not enough compared to the Aero Beetles, and the wannabe Aero Beetles.

Easy fix: Diffuser + ALMS wing, but the Platinum DE Cup is already a lonely place.


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