991 gt3 RS Transmission Choices - Further Speculation!
08-17-2012, 01:37 PM
#18
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So I have put the two together and come up with this scenario for future gt3 transmission choices on the 991 version:
A) The 991 gt3 (base) introduction will be available only with PDK.
B) Once the 991 gt3 RS is ready, they will offer a version of 'Sequential Transmission' on that upgraded model!
C) In this scenario, the traditional manual transmission (e.g. current 7 speed or older 6 speed) will officially never be offered on a 991 gt3 or RS. The 'Sequential' will be NOW the manual transmission choice on the gt3 RS.
Love to hear comments from the RS hardcore crowd here if any of this seems plausible!
A) The 991 gt3 (base) introduction will be available only with PDK.
B) Once the 991 gt3 RS is ready, they will offer a version of 'Sequential Transmission' on that upgraded model!
C) In this scenario, the traditional manual transmission (e.g. current 7 speed or older 6 speed) will officially never be offered on a 991 gt3 or RS. The 'Sequential' will be NOW the manual transmission choice on the gt3 RS.
Love to hear comments from the RS hardcore crowd here if any of this seems plausible!
Took Porsche years to throw in free floor mats - I can't see them giving PDK away.
08-17-2012, 02:24 PM
#19
Drifting
If the "sequential" is coming and is non-standard, I can see it being $10k easily.
08-17-2012, 03:44 PM
#20
Whats the point of a sequential, paddles do a better job.
We all know whats coming but no one wants to utter it.
PDK only!!
Porsche will save weight elsewhere in the 991 GT's to accomodate the increase in weight from the new pdk trans.
Those are my predictions
We all know whats coming but no one wants to utter it.
PDK only!!
Porsche will save weight elsewhere in the 991 GT's to accomodate the increase in weight from the new pdk trans.
Those are my predictions
08-18-2012, 08:21 AM
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Once VAG sees the economics of the Gallardo replacement, then there is some hope that the mainstream PAG cars will migrate to stronger, lighter, stiffer materials. You can't survive selling Carrera GT technology at 911 prices
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08-18-2012, 08:51 PM
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08-19-2012, 10:11 PM
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Since we're making predictions the "base" price will include a lighter, upgraded-performance-wise PDK and the MT will be a "no cost" option, if it's offered at all. Porsche will pocket the $4k premium on PDK while providing a manual, but isn't greedy enough to ask even more it.....
08-20-2012, 12:56 AM
#24
Drifting
Close. Since we're making predictions the "base" price will include a lighter, upgraded-performance-wise PDK and the MT will be a "no cost" option, if it's offered at all. Porsche will pocket the $4k premium on PDK while providing a manual, but isn't greedy enough to ask even more it.....
Since we're making predictions the "base" price will include a lighter, upgraded-performance-wise PDK and the MT will be a "no cost" option, if it's offered at all. Porsche will pocket the $4k premium on PDK while providing a manual, but isn't greedy enough to ask even more it.....
08-20-2012, 04:49 AM
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unobtanium costs too much. The 911 is largely made of rolled steel and ferrous castings.
Once VAG sees the economics of the Gallardo replacement, then there is some hope that the mainstream PAG cars will migrate to stronger, lighter, stiffer materials. You can't survive selling Carrera GT technology at 911 prices
R+C
Once VAG sees the economics of the Gallardo replacement, then there is some hope that the mainstream PAG cars will migrate to stronger, lighter, stiffer materials. You can't survive selling Carrera GT technology at 911 prices
R+C
and for the record to everyone else who thinks that your lap times (vs wallets) are the concern of PAG- you guys still think we are designing the car...which continues to make me laugh...
porsche is building an upmarket shared platform R8 / F458/ gallardo/ mclaren fighting thing and that will be what you get shoved into for "the ultimate porsche track day experience"
The 991GT3 will be whatever PAG decides. the 911 turbo manual trans is still a 6spd manual without the shared PDK style gearbox...and that is the best hope of getting a manual tranny in the GT3.
the 'lightweight / decontented at a cost' GT3 will push the scales at similar weights but only because they find new ways to charge buyers for light weight additions...carbon fenders, bumpers etc will save theoretical weight but will cost 10k for instance...and that will keep the theoretical curb weight down below some arbitrary level.
they're not giving anything away for free!
08-20-2012, 08:14 AM
#28
Drifting
I'm so happy to read your posts again Robin!
and for the record to everyone else who thinks that your lap times (vs wallets) are the concern of PAG- you guys still think we are designing the car...which continues to make me laugh...
porsche is building an upmarket shared platform R8 / F458/ gallardo/ mclaren fighting thing and that will be what you get shoved into for "the ultimate porsche track day experience"
The 991GT3 will be whatever PAG decides. the 911 turbo manual trans is still a 6spd manual without the shared PDK style gearbox...and that is the best hope of getting a manual tranny in the GT3.
the 'lightweight / decontented at a cost' GT3 will push the scales at similar weights but only because they find new ways to charge buyers for light weight additions...carbon fenders, bumpers etc will save theoretical weight but will cost 10k for instance...and that will keep the theoretical curb weight down below some arbitrary level.
they're not giving anything away for free!
and for the record to everyone else who thinks that your lap times (vs wallets) are the concern of PAG- you guys still think we are designing the car...which continues to make me laugh...
porsche is building an upmarket shared platform R8 / F458/ gallardo/ mclaren fighting thing and that will be what you get shoved into for "the ultimate porsche track day experience"
The 991GT3 will be whatever PAG decides. the 911 turbo manual trans is still a 6spd manual without the shared PDK style gearbox...and that is the best hope of getting a manual tranny in the GT3.
the 'lightweight / decontented at a cost' GT3 will push the scales at similar weights but only because they find new ways to charge buyers for light weight additions...carbon fenders, bumpers etc will save theoretical weight but will cost 10k for instance...and that will keep the theoretical curb weight down below some arbitrary level.
they're not giving anything away for free!
08-20-2012, 09:46 AM
#29
08-20-2012, 10:09 AM
#30
Drifting
I'm so happy to read your posts again Robin!
and for the record to everyone else who thinks that your lap times (vs wallets) are the concern of PAG- you guys still think we are designing the car...which continues to make me laugh...
porsche is building an upmarket shared platform R8 / F458/ gallardo/ mclaren fighting thing and that will be what you get shoved into for "the ultimate porsche track day experience"
The 991GT3 will be whatever PAG decides. the 911 turbo manual trans is still a 6spd manual without the shared PDK style gearbox...and that is the best hope of getting a manual tranny in the GT3.
the 'lightweight / decontented at a cost' GT3 will push the scales at similar weights but only because they find new ways to charge buyers for light weight additions...carbon fenders, bumpers etc will save theoretical weight but will cost 10k for instance...and that will keep the theoretical curb weight down below some arbitrary level.
they're not giving anything away for free!
and for the record to everyone else who thinks that your lap times (vs wallets) are the concern of PAG- you guys still think we are designing the car...which continues to make me laugh...
porsche is building an upmarket shared platform R8 / F458/ gallardo/ mclaren fighting thing and that will be what you get shoved into for "the ultimate porsche track day experience"
The 991GT3 will be whatever PAG decides. the 911 turbo manual trans is still a 6spd manual without the shared PDK style gearbox...and that is the best hope of getting a manual tranny in the GT3.
the 'lightweight / decontented at a cost' GT3 will push the scales at similar weights but only because they find new ways to charge buyers for light weight additions...carbon fenders, bumpers etc will save theoretical weight but will cost 10k for instance...and that will keep the theoretical curb weight down below some arbitrary level.
they're not giving anything away for free!