Proper DE attire?
08-14-2012, 06:29 AM
#61
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I mean holy hell is it that hard to buy some of this just for piece of mind?
http://www.saferacer.com/sparco-carm...?productid=758
http://www.saferacer.com/sparco-carm...?productid=758
08-14-2012, 08:31 AM
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Totally agree. At least you have some protection that won't burn on it's own. It's ugly, but it works. Unless you just insist on Stand 21. Go Stig!
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08-14-2012, 02:19 PM
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08-14-2012, 02:21 PM
#64
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it is not gas that ignites, it`s a vapor. how he managed to lit himself no one will ever know, but, it was not the point.
only thing i wanted to say - if you feel concerned - get any turtle neck cotton sweater/shirt and it should save your *** pretty well if you`ll manage to get out of the car fast enough.
something like this:
http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/18160...020_pmd_nextag
just make sure if fabric is indeed cotton and not something 'cotton-like'.
08-14-2012, 05:25 PM
#66
FWIW found this on the internets (http://www.billboardsportswear.com/_...trydata.html):
General Garment Flammability Standard
All are required to meet the same federal fammability standard: 16 CFR Part 1610.
The standard, administered by the Consumer Products Safety Commission, was originally adopted in 1954 as CS 191-53, the Flammable Fabrics Act. The purpose of the standard is to reduce the danger of injury and loss of life by providing, on a national basis, standard methods of testing and rating the fammability of textiles for clothing use. The standard measures two fabric attributes: ease of ignition and speed of flame spread. A specimen mounted at a 45° angle is exposed to a one second ignition. If the specimen ignites, flame spread, or the time to burn five inches in length is recorded. The Act establishes three classes of flammability based on ease of ignition and flame spread time.
What are the three classes of fabric flammability?
Class
Flame Spread Time
Class 1 Normal Flammability 4 seconds or more.
Class 2 Intermediate Flammability 4 to 7 seconds and the base fabric ignites.
(Applies to fabrics having a raised fiber surface/nap.)
Class 3 Rapid, Intense Burning Less than 4 seconds.
Dangerously flammable.
Unsuitable for clothing.
What class must garments manufactured or sold in the U.S. meet?
All wearing apparel sold in the U.S. must be made of fabric from Class 1 or 2.
No wearing apparel can be made of fabric rated Class 3.
Everyday wearing apparel will ignite and continue to burn if exposed to an ignition source. It is not currently possible to produce fashionable and affordable everyday wearing apparel that is flame resistant. Normal work apparel is made from a range of fabrics similar to those offered as everyday wearing apparel. Just like everyday apparel, normal work apparel will ignite and continue to burn if exposed to an ignition source.
General Garment Flammability Standard
All are required to meet the same federal fammability standard: 16 CFR Part 1610.
The standard, administered by the Consumer Products Safety Commission, was originally adopted in 1954 as CS 191-53, the Flammable Fabrics Act. The purpose of the standard is to reduce the danger of injury and loss of life by providing, on a national basis, standard methods of testing and rating the fammability of textiles for clothing use. The standard measures two fabric attributes: ease of ignition and speed of flame spread. A specimen mounted at a 45° angle is exposed to a one second ignition. If the specimen ignites, flame spread, or the time to burn five inches in length is recorded. The Act establishes three classes of flammability based on ease of ignition and flame spread time.
What are the three classes of fabric flammability?
Class
Flame Spread Time
Class 1 Normal Flammability 4 seconds or more.
Class 2 Intermediate Flammability 4 to 7 seconds and the base fabric ignites.
(Applies to fabrics having a raised fiber surface/nap.)
Class 3 Rapid, Intense Burning Less than 4 seconds.
Dangerously flammable.
Unsuitable for clothing.
What class must garments manufactured or sold in the U.S. meet?
All wearing apparel sold in the U.S. must be made of fabric from Class 1 or 2.
No wearing apparel can be made of fabric rated Class 3.
Everyday wearing apparel will ignite and continue to burn if exposed to an ignition source. It is not currently possible to produce fashionable and affordable everyday wearing apparel that is flame resistant. Normal work apparel is made from a range of fabrics similar to those offered as everyday wearing apparel. Just like everyday apparel, normal work apparel will ignite and continue to burn if exposed to an ignition source.
08-14-2012, 05:38 PM
#67
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well, i guess if you guys wil buy it and test it on a 90+ deg day and confirm that it does not make your back to boil and feel like in the sauna - write back about it here.
08-15-2012, 03:10 PM
#71
Nomex of any kind in DE just makes you an instant winner. You're even more of a standout when some guy in a 996 laps you.
Have seen too many variations of this in the 90+ degree weather here. Take your pick of Porsche Motorsport / Ferrari Challenge / Lamborghini SuperTrofeo attire. Plump middle-age guy in said suit laps 10 seconds slower than rungroup average, returns to paddock sweating like a pig, pounds chest and tells everybody what a great run he's had. The sight of gay walrus $ex is marginally more appealing.
Have seen too many variations of this in the 90+ degree weather here. Take your pick of Porsche Motorsport / Ferrari Challenge / Lamborghini SuperTrofeo attire. Plump middle-age guy in said suit laps 10 seconds slower than rungroup average, returns to paddock sweating like a pig, pounds chest and tells everybody what a great run he's had. The sight of gay walrus $ex is marginally more appealing.
(preferably of the plump middle-age guy kind)
08-15-2012, 03:44 PM
#73
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08-15-2012, 04:01 PM
#74
You pretty much described the build of 95% of the DE cup crew
