Fast 4.0 at Laguna Seca this weekend
07-02-2012 | 08:38 PM
#46
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Wow - by popular demand I have posted my first driving video publicly. I appreciate all the kind words, it's taken a lot of practice to deliver this kind of time. Previous best on Hoosier R6 was 1:35.4 in Sharkwerks 3.9L 997.1 GT3 in 2011. This was my first weekend with the RS 4.0 at Laguna.
The stock 997.2 GT3 Cup cars are turning 1:27-29 on =slicks=. (1:26 are World Challenge cars and other modified versions, Loren Begg's beast is a prototype racer that weighs ~2300lbs and has 650HP in a tube frame car. The only thing that makes it a Porsche is the engine).
At the Porsche Owner's Club 996/997 3.8L GT3 Cup or gutted/caged cars with manual transmissions weighing under 2800lbs in the top race group are turning 1:31-32 in qualifying with =slicks= (usually Yokes).
I think that in more ideal conditions and a perfect lap that a low 1:32 is possible with my setup. However, it will be quite difficult. On the other hand the track was cold as this was first session of the day and the surface had some condensation on it. Later in the morning I tried to push this hard with similar tyres but with 6 heat cycles on them and I had to make two large saves (in T5 and T6 - the video of this is quote entertaining). So I'm not leaving a lot of time of table. The only place on the lap that I obviously see that I left time on table was not entering T5 fastest enough (you can tell because I don't have to counter-steer to control the rear end) and over braking slightly for the corkscrew. T6 was near perfect as I exited at 105MPH! (my fastest ever).
Here's my best effort at Laguna in a street car:
Laguna Seca 1:33.089
The stock 997.2 GT3 Cup cars are turning 1:27-29 on =slicks=. (1:26 are World Challenge cars and other modified versions, Loren Begg's beast is a prototype racer that weighs ~2300lbs and has 650HP in a tube frame car. The only thing that makes it a Porsche is the engine).
At the Porsche Owner's Club 996/997 3.8L GT3 Cup or gutted/caged cars with manual transmissions weighing under 2800lbs in the top race group are turning 1:31-32 in qualifying with =slicks= (usually Yokes).
I think that in more ideal conditions and a perfect lap that a low 1:32 is possible with my setup. However, it will be quite difficult. On the other hand the track was cold as this was first session of the day and the surface had some condensation on it. Later in the morning I tried to push this hard with similar tyres but with 6 heat cycles on them and I had to make two large saves (in T5 and T6 - the video of this is quote entertaining). So I'm not leaving a lot of time of table. The only place on the lap that I obviously see that I left time on table was not entering T5 fastest enough (you can tell because I don't have to counter-steer to control the rear end) and over braking slightly for the corkscrew. T6 was near perfect as I exited at 105MPH! (my fastest ever).
Here's my best effort at Laguna in a street car:
Laguna Seca 1:33.089
Now you have to show us the saves!
Loving it. Not bragging if you can back it up !
07-02-2012 | 08:40 PM
#47
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jesse is very fast regardless of which car he is in.
randy pobst time is a pointless ref. pro's dont really drive that hard on test. JvoB had some time at LS, not that much faster than i did. but i assure you, he can easily drop 5-8 seconds off those magazine times. he dumped in in 2 turns like i was looking for keys to the ignition. so do look at pro times and think you are any where close to them.
btw, R6 is not 3 seconds faster than mpsc. no way at LS.
at serge. i think it woiuld be interesting to see fast jessie driving against smooth jeff against death wish potter, no?
randy pobst time is a pointless ref. pro's dont really drive that hard on test. JvoB had some time at LS, not that much faster than i did. but i assure you, he can easily drop 5-8 seconds off those magazine times. he dumped in in 2 turns like i was looking for keys to the ignition. so do look at pro times and think you are any where close to them.
btw, R6 is not 3 seconds faster than mpsc. no way at LS.
at serge. i think it woiuld be interesting to see fast jessie driving against smooth jeff against death wish potter, no?
07-02-2012 | 08:51 PM
#49
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Wow - by popular demand I have posted my first driving video publicly. I appreciate all the kind words, it's taken a lot of practice to deliver this kind of time. Previous best on Hoosier R6 was 1:35.4 in Sharkwerks 3.9L 997.1 GT3 in 2011. This was my first weekend with the RS 4.0 at Laguna.
The stock 997.2 GT3 Cup cars are turning 1:27-29 on =slicks=. (1:26 are World Challenge cars and other modified versions, Loren Begg's beast is a prototype racer that weighs ~2300lbs and has 650HP in a tube frame car. The only thing that makes it a Porsche is the engine).
At the Porsche Owner's Club 996/997 3.8L GT3 Cup or gutted/caged cars with manual transmissions weighing under 2800lbs in the top race group are turning 1:31-32 in qualifying with =slicks= (usually Yokes).
I think that in more ideal conditions and a perfect lap that a low 1:32 is possible with my setup. However, it will be quite difficult. On the other hand the track was cold as this was first session of the day and the surface had some condensation on it. Later in the morning I tried to push this hard with similar tyres but with 6 heat cycles on them and I had to make two large saves (in T5 and T6 - the video of this is quite entertaining). So I'm not leaving a lot of time of table. The only places on the lap that I obviously see that I left time on table was not entering T5 fastest enough (you can tell because I don't have to counter-steer to control the rear end) and over braking slightly for the corkscrew. T6 was near perfect as I exited at 105MPH! (my fastest ever).
Here's my best effort at Laguna in a street car:
Laguna Seca 1:33.089
The stock 997.2 GT3 Cup cars are turning 1:27-29 on =slicks=. (1:26 are World Challenge cars and other modified versions, Loren Begg's beast is a prototype racer that weighs ~2300lbs and has 650HP in a tube frame car. The only thing that makes it a Porsche is the engine).
At the Porsche Owner's Club 996/997 3.8L GT3 Cup or gutted/caged cars with manual transmissions weighing under 2800lbs in the top race group are turning 1:31-32 in qualifying with =slicks= (usually Yokes).
I think that in more ideal conditions and a perfect lap that a low 1:32 is possible with my setup. However, it will be quite difficult. On the other hand the track was cold as this was first session of the day and the surface had some condensation on it. Later in the morning I tried to push this hard with similar tyres but with 6 heat cycles on them and I had to make two large saves (in T5 and T6 - the video of this is quite entertaining). So I'm not leaving a lot of time of table. The only places on the lap that I obviously see that I left time on table was not entering T5 fastest enough (you can tell because I don't have to counter-steer to control the rear end) and over braking slightly for the corkscrew. T6 was near perfect as I exited at 105MPH! (my fastest ever).
Here's my best effort at Laguna in a street car:
Laguna Seca 1:33.089
07-02-2012 | 09:47 PM
#50
Wow - by popular demand I have posted my first driving video publicly. I appreciate all the kind words, it's taken a lot of practice to deliver this kind of time. Previous best on Hoosier R6 was 1:35.4 in Sharkwerks 3.9L 997.1 GT3 in 2011. This was my first weekend with the RS 4.0 at Laguna.
Great stuff my friend.
07-02-2012 | 10:01 PM
#52
Indeed, this is a new(ish) development for me. I don't move both hands though. The inside hand (left hand) stays in place. It only really happens in small radius corners (usually with a lot of steering angle after the gear shift). I place my right hand at the 3 O'clock position, but the steering wheel already has a lot of angle in it. It then just acts as a support role. The left hand knows the ideal angle through the corner, the right hand is helping with corrections. Interesting how our habits morph and develop though.
07-02-2012 | 10:06 PM
#53
Wow...great driving...super fun video to watch.
07-02-2012 | 10:07 PM
#54
My alignment is:
-3.1 front camber
-2.5 rear camber
1/16th total toe out front
3/16” total toe in rear
My only complaint with the car is that the springs are too soft. The nose really dives under braking. It also really would benefit from dog bones in the rear. It is currently fairly sloppy.
If you drive your car on the street a fair amount and are worried about tyre wear, but still want an aggressive alignment I'd recommend:
-2.5 front camber
-2.5 rear camber
0 total toe front
3/16” total toe in rear
-3.1 front camber
-2.5 rear camber
1/16th total toe out front
3/16” total toe in rear
My only complaint with the car is that the springs are too soft. The nose really dives under braking. It also really would benefit from dog bones in the rear. It is currently fairly sloppy.
If you drive your car on the street a fair amount and are worried about tyre wear, but still want an aggressive alignment I'd recommend:
-2.5 front camber
-2.5 rear camber
0 total toe front
3/16” total toe in rear
07-02-2012 | 10:21 PM
#55
1/16th total toe is right at .8mm toe out per side
3/16th total toe is right at 2.4mm toe in rear per side....in case some are wondering
I've never been that aggressive with toe but then again I'm not driving the holy grail Porsche or on R6's either like jmenczer is doing a killer job of.
My (wanna be crap can GTS - per NJ-GT) on MPSC and R888 is at
-2.5 front camber
-1.9 rear camber
zero toe front...I tried .5mm toe out per side but that ate the inside of the tire real bad
.2mm toe in rear
3/16th total toe is right at 2.4mm toe in rear per side....in case some are wondering
I've never been that aggressive with toe but then again I'm not driving the holy grail Porsche or on R6's either like jmenczer is doing a killer job of.
My (wanna be crap can GTS - per NJ-GT) on MPSC and R888 is at
-2.5 front camber
-1.9 rear camber
zero toe front...I tried .5mm toe out per side but that ate the inside of the tire real bad
.2mm toe in rear
07-03-2012 | 01:08 AM
#56
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Holy crap that was awesome. Had the pleasure of being passed a couple of times like a wheezing 1.6L Miata by the black terror 4.0. Congrats on the time.
07-03-2012 | 01:46 AM
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i am not implying randy is scrub. i am saying the time he posted is not a "real" time. he can easily be his own time by a LOT.
07-03-2012 | 01:52 AM
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