Trofeo R Report
07-18-2012, 07:22 PM
#31
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07-18-2012, 08:12 PM
#32
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Oh- by the way, pressure is critical. I ran most of my laps under 28 lbs- the tires take a lap or two or more to get up to pressure when cold, I had the luxury of pealing off and adjusting pressures as needed- I never ran over 28 lbs for more than a lap. Managing them like this I never felt the performance degrade- very consistent.
On a GT3RS they work very well at OE suggested camber. The "R" even more so. No need to go over -2 front or back. Makes for more stable braking as well if you can avoid big neg camber.
07-18-2012, 08:46 PM
#33
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DE's where I run are mostly 4 sessions per day which = 4 heat cycles. A good day at Sebring will net you around 150 miles of track driving. So you got 23 heat cycles and with 4 heat cycles an event that is 5.75 events...I assume you could stretch them another heat cycle to 6 full track day = 24 heat cycles.
This is about what most get out of DOT R- Comps totally pushing them to the end.
What is the cost of Trofeo's now? $2100ish...I was quoted $2195 a set from GMG....Trofeo is too rich for my blood. I get that amount of tire use from Toyo R888 for $1000 less....Nitto NT01 would cost less and last even longer.
Good reports...thanks for posting
This is about what most get out of DOT R- Comps totally pushing them to the end.
What is the cost of Trofeo's now? $2100ish...I was quoted $2195 a set from GMG....Trofeo is too rich for my blood. I get that amount of tire use from Toyo R888 for $1000 less....Nitto NT01 would cost less and last even longer.
Good reports...thanks for posting
07-18-2012, 08:53 PM
#34
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(Oh, I did get ABS ice mode once- Weird feeling, but I was very light and applied the brakes too early anyways, so releasing and reapplying brakes wasn't an issue, but I don't like it...)
07-18-2012, 11:14 PM
#35
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I think you have to consider the quality of what you get with the price. Price is $1800 per set for me. I think they compare favorable with Hoosiers, probably a second off on a two mile track, but I think that's considerably better than other true street tire options. For example, my best time at ORP on RE11's CW was a 1:59.2, now with Trofeo's I just did a 1:54.5. I would say there was two seconds in driving improvement, and the rest of it is due to the tires, so that's almost a 3 second improvement over a two mile course. Not Hoosier territory, but close.
I'm tempted on getting a set for my stock 19" wheels and compare them to some 18" R88 and/or NT01.
07-19-2012, 02:53 AM
#36
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Do it. Track time is always expensive- broken down to the ridiculous, over five track days, the Trofeo R's cost you $40 more per session or $160 more per day to hang with most guys running Hoosiers, while you're on your "street" tires.
07-19-2012, 03:29 PM
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Here you go
-> http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motors...-trofeo-r-tyre
that is about $ 1900 for a set 235/35 R19 - 305/30 R19
08-05-2012, 04:28 AM
#39
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I have another track day coming up this weekend. Trofeo R's sitting in the garage, unmounted because I can't find a competent shop that can/is willing to mount these tires
The pitfalls of owning a high performance car in the armpit of California.
So, rather than miss the day that I've planned for weeks, I'll have to bite the bullet and go with my horrendous MPSC's which have likely been heat cycled WAY too many times
Doc GTO, since you're the only TT owner here running the Trofeos, what alignment settings have you been using? Are you running the 2 BAR hot pressures as well? Hopefully, I can find someone capable of mounting these things soon....
The pitfalls of owning a high performance car in the armpit of California.So, rather than miss the day that I've planned for weeks, I'll have to bite the bullet and go with my horrendous MPSC's which have likely been heat cycled WAY too many times
Doc GTO, since you're the only TT owner here running the Trofeos, what alignment settings have you been using? Are you running the 2 BAR hot pressures as well? Hopefully, I can find someone capable of mounting these things soon....
08-05-2012, 05:52 AM
#40
Nah, that isn't true...
Here you go
-> http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motors...-trofeo-r-tyre
that is about $ 1900 for a set 235/35 R19 - 305/30 R19
Here you go
-> http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motors...-trofeo-r-tyre
that is about $ 1900 for a set 235/35 R19 - 305/30 R19
In Belgium they are A LOT more expensive!
Thanks for the link man!
08-05-2012, 10:35 AM
#41
Race Director
Tiresdirect.net has Toyo R888 in 255/315 18" for $980! I just can't pay $2000 a set for either Trofeo or MPSC. I tried MPSC and compared to R888 they had less grip and lasted the usual 4 track days
08-05-2012, 08:31 PM
#42
I hear everyone who tries R888 on "heavy" cars ( = heavy weight + lots of HP) complain about them. They seem to work a lot better on Lotus Elise/Exige type of cars. Over here the de-facto semi-slick that is used is the Michelin Cup+ N1.
08-05-2012, 08:37 PM
#43
Race Director
I know people don't like the R888 either but most all run the R888 at tire pressures of the RA1 and that is wrong due to the R888's much stiffer side wall. I'm not saying the R888 is the best tire but it's really not as bad as people say.
Hopefully Nitto NT01 will come out with a 305/35/18 to run with the 245/40/18 that is already in the program...or a 255/35/18 to run with the 315/35/18 that is already in the program.
08-06-2012, 11:13 PM
#44
Burning Brakes
I have another track day coming up this weekend. Trofeo R's sitting in the garage, unmounted because I can't find a competent shop that can/is willing to mount these tires The pitfalls of owning a high performance car in the armpit of California.
So, rather than miss the day that I've planned for weeks, I'll have to bite the bullet and go with my horrendous MPSC's which have likely been heat cycled WAY too many times
Doc GTO, since you're the only TT owner here running the Trofeos, what alignment settings have you been using? Are you running the 2 BAR hot pressures as well? Hopefully, I can find someone capable of mounting these things soon....
The pitfalls of owning a high performance car in the armpit of California.So, rather than miss the day that I've planned for weeks, I'll have to bite the bullet and go with my horrendous MPSC's which have likely been heat cycled WAY too many times
Doc GTO, since you're the only TT owner here running the Trofeos, what alignment settings have you been using? Are you running the 2 BAR hot pressures as well? Hopefully, I can find someone capable of mounting these things soon....
In the rear I run -2.0 camber with .12 toe-in each side. I did run the 2 bar pressure (30 psi) Looking at the wear, I'd say that they could use maybe another 2 psi to reduce outer front edge wear or maybe go with -2.8 front camber. If the outer edges didn't wear faster then the rest of the tires, I could have gotten more track time out of them.
08-07-2012, 03:11 AM
#45
Race Director
So DocGTO say he needs a little more camber than -2.8 and Savyboy say no more than -2...WOW that's a huge difference. Maybe the cars, how fast each of you are actually going and the tracks driven?