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Old 11-06-2012, 12:31 PM
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When you say interior, what exactly needs to come out other than the headliner?
Old 11-06-2012, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
When you say interior, what exactly needs to come out other than the headliner?
seats (no biggie)
then remove carpet OR drop cloths everywhere since you are welding above it
but the glass is the main issue I think...

it is so worth it...
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If we go drop cloth route can we leave seats and roll bar in place? The less we monkey with the better. I'm at sun coast right now pulling parts.

My body shop will make me a headliner. It won't be alcantara but I don't care.
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Northvan can answer better than me but I think all of the seats and cage come out...

I could be wrong... but IIRC the front and rear glass, seats, and cage out
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Sorry, at hockey practice this morning.

Everything should come out (including front and rear windows). We tried to cut corners, and left the carpet in, and covered it with blankets. The second spot weld generated a big enough spark that burned through the blanket and damaged the carpet behind the drivers seat. $150 for a used one and we are as good as new. If your shop is OK doing it with the seats in, then good for you, but I doubt the headliner will come out with the roll bar still in.
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Eeek. This is a big job for such a cheap part.

I can have a headliner done for $200. Roof panel about $500. Dome and padding about $100.

20 hours of labor? Ouch....

So is this confirmed that its 45 pounds less after installing stock non sunroof panel back in?
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Originally Posted by NorthVan

Everything should come out (including front and rear windows)..

How did they managed to get glued windows out (and back in) in one piece?
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
Eeek. This is a big job for such a cheap part.

I can have a headliner done for $200. Roof panel about $500. Dome and padding about $100.

20 hours of labor? Ouch....

So is this confirmed that its 45 pounds less after installing stock non sunroof panel back in?
Well well, looky what we have here. Burkowitz trying to find ways to cheat again....
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Stop being cheap, and do it right. You don't have a civic ... a porsche with fiat roof liner ... yeah, who needs a roof liner, just grab Chewie's old blanket and glue it in ...


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I've done it
EVERYTHING needs to come out
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Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
Stop being cheap, and do it right. You don't have a civic ... a porsche with fiat roof liner ... yeah, who needs a roof liner, just grab Chewie's old blanket and glue it in ...


LMAO!

I agree, do it right, or don't do it at all.
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Originally Posted by pete95zhn
How did they managed to get glued windows out (and back in) in one piece?
Not sure, the front window was being replaced so we put a new one in, but the rear window was re+re'd in my car.
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
Eeek. This is a big job for such a cheap part.

I can have a headliner done for $200. Roof panel about $500. Dome and padding about $100.

20 hours of labor? Ouch....

So is this confirmed that its 45 pounds less after installing stock non sunroof panel back in?
you will be surprised at how much all those motors, tracks, and cables weigh. The real surprise was how heavy the sunroof itself weighed, it must have been 20lbs+. The replacement roof skin from Porsche weights very little, I thought about a carbon roof, but the weight savings wasn't enough for me to go to that extreme. As for my numbers, I used Gomez's weight loss thread as a reference.
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Originally Posted by pete95zhn
How did they managed to get glued windows out (and back in) in one piece?
That's a good question. I've had windows pulled out several times in different vehicles and they never broke, but I know there's potential for them cracking.

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Well well, looky what we have here. Burkowitz trying to find ways to cheat again....
I have pasty white Irish skin. I'm doing this as a preventative measure to avoid possible skin cancer. The sun is dangerous.

Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
Stop being cheap, and do it right. You don't have a civic ... a porsche with fiat roof liner ... yeah, who needs a roof liner, just grab Chewie's old blanket and glue it in ...


**** that. $2k or whatever for an OEM alcantara headliner. That's just stupid. I never look up anyway. I'll have them throw a black fabric headliner in for 10% of that. Unless of course you're paying for it.

Originally Posted by NorthVan
you will be surprised at how much all those motors, tracks, and cables weigh. The real surprise was how heavy the sunroof itself weighed, it must have been 20lbs+. The replacement roof skin from Porsche weights very little, I thought about a carbon roof, but the weight savings wasn't enough for me to go to that extreme. As for my numbers, I used Gomez's weight loss thread as a reference.
Agreed. The carbon roof panel is triple the cost of the aluminum skin and only weighs 2 pounds less.


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