Michelin Pilot Super Sports
09-29-2011, 11:04 PM
#16
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Still no word if 295/30/18s PSS will be introduced? Will PS2s be sold at clearance soon?
Id rather buy cheaper PSS than PS2s. Those crooks still want almost 500 bucks for rears in my size!
Id rather buy cheaper PSS than PS2s. Those crooks still want almost 500 bucks for rears in my size!
10-12-2011, 04:34 AM
#19
Depends who is driving them. A friend of mine drove with PSS last week and he clocked the same laptimes as with cups (and he for sure is no slow driver). The big advantage of the PSS over the Cup for amateurs is that they are easier to drive on the limit as they let go more smoothly than a Cup. It takes a lot more skill to drive a cup on the limit as it gets a lot more unpredictable if/when it lets go. I think that for a lot of amateur trackdrivers the PSS is a very good choice (and they last longer too). There is a big difference between the PS2 and the PSS.
No idea on how they perform in the California summer though.
10-12-2011, 06:16 AM
#20
Depends who is driving them. A friend of mine drove with PSS last week and he clocked the same laptimes as with cups (and he for sure is no slow driver). The big advantage of the PSS over the Cup for amateurs is that they are easier to drive on the limit as they let go more smoothly than a Cup. It takes a lot more skill to drive a cup on the limit as it gets a lot more unpredictable if/when it lets go. I think that for a lot of amateur trackdrivers the PSS is a very good choice (and they last longer too). There is a big difference between the PS2 and the PSS.
No idea on how they perform in the California summer though.
No idea on how they perform in the California summer though.
10-12-2011, 08:23 AM
#21
Not sure if I agree that the Cups are the same speed as the PSS. I followed a Gt3 riding Cups while I was on my PSS around the track, and the PSS's have to do a LOT of work to accomplish the same thing that the Cups do. Granted, it takes more effort to dial in the Cups (kind of), but they are a significantly quicker tire..
I never said that they are faster. I only say they are easier to drive on the limit as the cup is a lot harder to control on the limit. I takes a lot more skill to drive cups at 99% than it is to drive PSS at 99%. And by on the limit I am not saying that if your tyres squeal you are driving them on the limit, I talk about correctly driving them on the limit, not through push-understeer or oversteer by giving it way too much throttle.
Also it is hard to compare cars with different drivers and make conclusions about tyres. I also cannot give you any laptimes as you guys do not really know the tracks we drive around here
10-12-2011, 08:28 AM
#22
I never said that they are faster. I only say they are easier to drive on the limit as the cup is a lot harder to control on the limit. I takes a lot more skill to drive cups at 99% than it is to drive PSS at 99%. And by on the limit I am not saying that if your tyres squeal you are driving them on the limit, I talk about correctly driving them on the limit, not through push-understeer or oversteer by giving it way too much throttle.
Also it is hard to compare cars with different drivers and make conclusions about tyres. I also cannot give you any laptimes as you guys do not really know the tracks we drive around here
Also it is hard to compare cars with different drivers and make conclusions about tyres. I also cannot give you any laptimes as you guys do not really know the tracks we drive around here
Though, you are going slower so it is inherently easier to control the car.
10-12-2011, 10:57 AM
#24
If it is 'your' soon to be GT3, then make it 'your' actual GT3 subject to certain money for tires (what ever their cost is) and buy car as is - and then purchase the PSS yourself. PSS are not N-Spec so the dealer can't put them on.
10-12-2011, 11:10 AM
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10-12-2011, 11:33 AM
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If the dealer is not able to install the non N rated tires, then where do I take the car? My soon to be, comes with center lock wheels. A tire place around town refused to look at the car(tts) because of the center lock wheels.
10-12-2011, 12:02 PM
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Please don't tell the local dealers they are not supposed to mount non N spec tires for us. They've been helping with our Hoosiers and other non N spec sneakers for quite a while.
Try asking the dealer again for the specific tire you'd like to have on the car.
Also, bmardini, just curious about what sizes you had rubbing issues with?
Try asking the dealer again for the specific tire you'd like to have on the car.
Also, bmardini, just curious about what sizes you had rubbing issues with?
10-12-2011, 12:04 PM
#28
Please don't tell the local dealers they are not supposed to mount non N spec tires for us. They've been helping with our Hoosiers and other non N spec sneakers for quite a while.
Try asking the dealer again for the specific tire you'd like to have on the car.
Also, bmardini, just curious about what sizes you had rubbing issues with?
Try asking the dealer again for the specific tire you'd like to have on the car.
Also, bmardini, just curious about what sizes you had rubbing issues with?
10-12-2011, 12:13 PM
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Surprised that a 235 rubbed. What camber/alignment set up are you running? Was it rubbing the fender lip, liner, or strut?
I'm curious because I intend to try the Super Sport, but in the 245 size.
I'm curious because I intend to try the Super Sport, but in the 245 size.
10-12-2011, 12:28 PM
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What is the optimum size set up for a stock 997.1 GT3 then? I want to run more front tyre on my car compared to rear but i'd rather not move to new wheels right now but I think this is the only answer, the GT3 has too much rear tyre for my liking. I normally run 888s on the street which are lots of fun in the wet/cold.....