RS 4.0, I Have a 3 Hour Window to Decide
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Was there a '74 RS per se?
As for the 100K 3.8 RS, I think that's an interesting goal. One I might well pursue myself. But only if it's exclusively track miles. I can't imagine driving 100K miles on the street in a 3.8. Rather like trying to ride more than an hour or two on a Ducati 916 (or 996 et al) ... you can ride that bike all day so long as you're on the track and working from turn to turn, but as soon as you're in traffic on the street or covering miles on the open road, your wrists break, your neck aches, your bum is on fire (because of the exhausts directly under the seat) and you can't wait to get off the bloody thing. Worst bike on the street, no other bike is half as good on the track. The same for the 3.8 -- awful on the street, but I've never driven a car half as good on the track.
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At 125hp / liter and at 3000#s if spec'd as a lightweight, for the 9A1 2015gt3 to outperform this 4.0, they are going to have to charge $$$ to get the weight down because I just don't see it with more HP in a NA form. Having driven cars with more HP than the 4.0's 500HP, any 2wdr car with more HP than 500 becomes an exponential handful without very intrusive electronics to keep the car under control. In my opinion, above 500HP, 4wdr becomes 'almost' necessary for mortals to return home alive after a trackday. As an example, lets look at which car won this year's One Lap - a 600HP well prepped GT-r driven by a well known Porsche driver. I can see a 4.0 liter 9A1 2015gt3 with a 450 HP engine whose front wheels are driven by some form of hybrid regenerating electric 50hp engines on each front wheel. This type of car can / will be faster than the 4.0 - and it will cost $200k in the US - but it won't have soul - it will just be fast.
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I'm in for the 100K mile challenge, but that will take me about 8 years.....
I think the 991RS will be heavier, because all new models are heavier. At one point cars might get lighter with CF tubs, but that will be the model after 991, if ever.
Probably will be 2013/14 before we see a 991RS..
I think the 991RS will be heavier, because all new models are heavier. At one point cars might get lighter with CF tubs, but that will be the model after 991, if ever.
Probably will be 2013/14 before we see a 991RS..
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First, I had 3 hour window to make a decision. I took too long to decide so the dealer moved on to the next buyer and he bought it. Specced it out in black, steel brakes, lightweight battery, red/black interior, I don't know what he did with the wheels?
Second, I call my other dealer. Yes, he got one allocation and I could have it if I wanted it. I asked him why it wasn't already sold? He didn't have any buyers. The dealer was trying to trade his 4.0 allocation with another dealer who did have a buyer. I think my dealer wanted some Cayennes instead of a 4.0? Two or three Cayennes meant more to his business than one 4.0. So I passed. I'll get another favor from him in the future.
Third, later in the afternoon a good friend calls me to offer another allocation that his dealer had. I passed.
So, at the end of the day there is no 4.0 in future. If I change my mind later I think I could still find in one. I don't know what to think after all these 4.0s show up in one day?
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Seems Porsche simply recently allocated more cars to dealer in the USA and now they are trying to lock in a buyers order.
Will make life interesting for the [insert word]'s who signed a buyers order for MSRP+ $xxK though...lol
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reading this thread I am a bit dissapointed that it rapidly degenerated into a depreciation discussion ... where are the passionate GT owners?
If I had the means and the opportunity I would have required around 3 milliseconds to decide to buy a 4.0RS and f*ck the depreciation ... they all
pretty much depreciate and life is too short to mess around.
Of course mine would be PTS Mexico Blue and I would have done euro delivery so I could take it to the Ring ... and it would have been worth every penny just for that experience alone ...
Yours Dissapointed
Larry
If I had the means and the opportunity I would have required around 3 milliseconds to decide to buy a 4.0RS and f*ck the depreciation ... they all
pretty much depreciate and life is too short to mess around.
Of course mine would be PTS Mexico Blue and I would have done euro delivery so I could take it to the Ring ... and it would have been worth every penny just for that experience alone ...
Yours Dissapointed
Larry
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reading this thread I am a bit dissapointed that it rapidly degenerated into a depreciation discussion ... where are the passionate GT owners?
If I had the means and the opportunity I would have required around 3 milliseconds to decide to buy a 4.0RS and f*ck the depreciation ... they all
pretty much depreciate and life is too short to mess around.
Of course mine would be PTS Mexico Blue and I would have done euro delivery so I could take it to the Ring ... and it would have been worth every penny just for that experience alone ...
Yours Dissapointed
Larry
If I had the means and the opportunity I would have required around 3 milliseconds to decide to buy a 4.0RS and f*ck the depreciation ... they all
pretty much depreciate and life is too short to mess around.
Of course mine would be PTS Mexico Blue and I would have done euro delivery so I could take it to the Ring ... and it would have been worth every penny just for that experience alone ...
Yours Dissapointed
Larry
It's too bad. I would have been seriously tempted to get a Riviera or Mexico Blue 4.0 and keep it.
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reading this thread I am a bit dissapointed that it rapidly degenerated into a depreciation discussion ... where are the passionate GT owners?
If I had the means and the opportunity I would have required around 3 milliseconds to decide to buy a 4.0RS and f*ck the depreciation ... they all
pretty much depreciate and life is too short to mess around.
Of course mine would be PTS Mexico Blue and I would have done euro delivery so I could take it to the Ring ... and it would have been worth every penny just for that experience alone ...
Yours Dissapointed
Larry
If I had the means and the opportunity I would have required around 3 milliseconds to decide to buy a 4.0RS and f*ck the depreciation ... they all
pretty much depreciate and life is too short to mess around.
Of course mine would be PTS Mexico Blue and I would have done euro delivery so I could take it to the Ring ... and it would have been worth every penny just for that experience alone ...
Yours Dissapointed
Larry
+1 The difference is you are a driver
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reading this thread I am a bit dissapointed that it rapidly degenerated into a depreciation discussion ... where are the passionate GT owners?
If I had the means and the opportunity I would have required around 3 milliseconds to decide to buy a 4.0RS and f*ck the depreciation ... they all
pretty much depreciate and life is too short to mess around.
Yours Dissapointed
Larry
If I had the means and the opportunity I would have required around 3 milliseconds to decide to buy a 4.0RS and f*ck the depreciation ... they all
pretty much depreciate and life is too short to mess around.
Yours Dissapointed
Larry
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I can understand your disappointment about the depreciation discussion. For me it was an important part of my decision. I wasn't looking for or even interested in the 4.0 when 3 drop into my lap. That's why I passed on the cars. If I could have escaped with minimal depreciation I might have bought it. I'm sure the 4.0 is a great car.
having said that ... I took a bath on my '07 GT3 for the '10 without batting an eye ... it was that good!