86 3point2

New price hot off the press from PMNA for torque tool p/n 997 450 323 90 - $1511.37 (down from previous retail of ~$2,600). Must be prepaid via wire transfer, order to be placed by PMNA to Weissach week of 14 Feb.

PM me for details if interested.

kyrocks

I'll stick with my $300 torque wrench.

TRAKCAR

Nuts

Carrera GT

Well put.

DKP 97 C2 Coupe

Makes me think of the old line: "I may be dumb but I'm not stupid" I know most of us P-car guys are crazy but this is truly beyond outrageous ~~

micahbones

$1500+ for a damn wrench...that's price gouging by Porsche at its most egregious. Not sure which is worse, the "cost" of that wrench or charging $7K+ for some black stickers and wheels in the DZL package.

mooty

just use a big wrench and be a man.

Carrera GT

Not sure? Let me clear that up for you ...

$1500 for a precision tool that top shelf machinist equipment manufacturers charge top dollar at about $900 ... that's the cost of the Porsche brand and tool specific to perhaps a few thousand cars on the planet.

As for the insult of DZL, it's not something Porsche should debase itself to beg for hand outs. $0.50c ... fiddy cent ... for vinyl and acrylic color decorations ... that's egregious and by asking for these preposterous gratuities, Porsche shows it has talentless, non-creative <deleted> decision makers in its midst who have forgotten that Porsche can command any price it needs for its core engineering and technical excellence and it belittles the name of the company and the name of its founders by stooping to beg for loose change from rich customers to have their cars swathed in nauseating color schemes and froufrou decorations.

If the advent of VW brings any good to Porsche, let's hope it is fair pricing and value for money in the price book. If there's a cost to have a car step out of the production line for Exclusive options, then by all means, I see great value in Porsche owners being able to build their cars uniquely to their tastes and preferences, but when Porsche says it costs thousands to spray Carrara white on a GT2 RS, well, that's offensive to say the least. If they want to restrict the colors of a limited production car, great, good, I dunno, sure, it might be important, but hell, don't pretend that there's thousands of dollars incurred in having a production line worker set up the car for a bath of white instead of a bath of red or that one year Atlas Grey is a normal color, then it's unavailable and then it's a premium. Or that one shade of yellow (Speed) or blue (Gulf) requires extraordinary "quality testing" while another shade is just a mouse click away.

I can only hope that the 991 brings us back to the 993 and 964 in terms of the customer having their wishes be fulfilled without the Disney fanfare of it being such a fantasy come true. If I want Alcantara instead of New York Taxi Cab vinyl, let's have it cost what it costs. It's just a synthetic fibre, it's not Mink ******* hairs weaved by Angelina Jolie. Then again, if someone wants to paint the gauge faces red or yellow, let's make sure that costs a fortune so they just don't do it!

mikymu

LOL

Well said Adam. Since I burn my money tree this winter for heat, I pass the handy Porsche torque multiplier and got myself a Taiwanese $200 ebay special: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

It worked just as well as my Egyptian secrete police issued 10' torque wrench baton that require Arnold Schwarzenegger's left quadriceps to lift

Carrera GT

That TM looks like a clone (albeit mini-me sized) of the Armstrong (about $800 normally ... I bought one from a fellow Rennlister for $500) ... it's the right tool for the job ... even after Porsche raised the torque bar ... : ) ... but it's also about ten times the size of the Taiwan copy and about as big as the wheel nut itself ... it has the feel of a precision machined gun turret. It's a joy to use. While the torque accuracy is something seemingly huge (I think 6% from memory) once you consider the 10:1 amplification and the logarithmic scale of the leverage, it's little more than a sneeze in a cyclone or a belch on the beaufort scale. It was interesting to see how much it rotated the wheel nuts for the new torque spec (almost a half rotation.) There's just something very rewarding about using precision tools instead of brute force.

https://rennlist.com/forums/7592222-post13.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzpTU7lBxBA

mikymu

That's a real nice TM. The Taiwanese TM is the smaller one in my picture and it offer 3:1 torque multiplication but has a 10-20% loss of accuracy ... ouch. It's good enough for government work. My Cup car's center lock nut "only" require 460 Nm to tighten

micahbones

Very good point Carrera GT! My standard of reference was a $30-40 torque wrench to get 5-bolt wheels to 85-90 ft-lbs, so $1500 for a torque wrench seemed positively outrageous. You are absolutely correct about the real value of some stickers & paint vs. a precision machined tool that actually does something, especially given the heavy torque requirement of the center lock. After all I think for example a hand-mitered, welded, and painted steel bike frame at $2K is a very good value for what it offers the rider.

KINGSRULE

So far the best post of 2011. OUTSTANDING!!!

DKP 97 C2 Coupe

+1 on the "Best Post of 2011" by Carrera GT! Well put old chap~~

jbigelow

LMFAO...... LUV IT Adam!!!!!!