I had PFC01s and they were great on the track, but didn't last at all! I got like 5-6 DEs and they were gone, I mean literally.

 

I get 5 DE's max at Sebring from my RS29 Yellow Pagids for the front and they have only 35-40% left on them.

 

Sebring is really tough on the brakes though, not like Homestead

 

Craig

I cant say that I agree with you as Endless has been supplying Porsche Motorsport for a few years now, they are on the 997 GT3 R Hybrid. (I have pictures to prove that).

Top level teams in the US are , GMG, Extreme Speed, Risi Competizione, Velox used in 2010 to name a few.

In 2010 Nurburgring 24 hours endless had over 65 entries using there pads and fluid.


And we have also been using Endless pads with great success over the years.


Pagid makes a great product but it is certainly not the holy grail by any means.
Its not to say that it is a bad product by any stretch of the imagination.
We often sell it to some of our customers when it suits there application.
Some drivers use it because they have used it for so many years.

We have tested numerous pad manufacturers not only Pagid but the other popular choices on the market and have extensive data to back up the Endless product..

I wouldn't be using it if it didn't work.. I don't get them for free


We have been very unbiased in our testing approach and we want what is best and makes our team most competitive.

I realize certain drivers are use to certain pads and that varies.

All I can say is that from the data we collected we know what we are using.

 

Here are my last set of Endless ME20 after 25 De sessions (30 minutes each) at Sebring. Brake feel is very linear.......way better than ceramic PCCB

Stop Tech STR brakes. Brake Bias is set of for same pressure in rear and 4% over stock in front

Motul 600 fluid

18mm beginning pads thickness

I always run sport on, TC off. Stock LSD (actually an open LSD )

I asked Endless how long to run the pads, they replied. Fronts inner was slightly tapered

"Minimum thickness is usually 7 mm (including backing plate) for the pads. 3 mm of compound material.

All brake pads have some amount of pad taper, which is normal. Controlling pad taper can boil down to many different variables, and sometimes it is unavoidable."

 

Front Inner Thick Point

 

Front Inner Thin Point

 

Front Outer

 

Rear (they wore the exact same inboard to outboard)

 

I'd say that is about the same wear I get on my Pagid 29, but only if I flip them after about 12-15 sessions (front only) otherwide they taper much worse.
I'll try to remember to take the same measurements on my pads that I used 7 days at Sebring, Winterfest and 48 hours. I'd say that should be about 20-24 sessions and I'm pretty sure there is more left on mine.

Problem is that with about 50% pad left after 15-20 sessions the brake pedal gets softer and I have to tap the pedal before going into hard braking and the car does slow down less. On a track like Sebring it could be a second a lap.

New rotors and pads really feel much stronger then rotors and pads with only 20 sessions, maybe the rotor also start flxing more?

From what I can gather, it could be that the Endless pads stay feeling better longer, but they wear and cost about the same. I will try them one day.

 

Pad taper depends a little bit on caliper as well. Pad wear would be slightly different on the Stock caliper versus the Stoptech.

 

Sure; I excpect the Endless pads to taper the same as the Pagid, I'm only hoping for better feel, longer.

 

Just read an article on Euro Car mag where he "upgraded" his 997 GT3 brakes calipers to Trophy deals. OK.