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Old 09-14-2010, 01:06 PM
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I've read on multiple threads about people flipping their pads in order to more evenly wear them.

Am I correct in assuming that the pistons will compensate for the uneven pad, keeping the full surface area of the pad on the rotor, thus having no effect on braking?

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Old 09-14-2010, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kush07
I've read on multiple threads about people flipping their pads in order to more evenly wear them.

Am I correct in assuming that the pistons will compensate for the uneven pad, keeping the full surface area of the pad on the rotor, thus having no effect on braking?

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I'm pretty sure you flip the pads to extend pad life, not increase braking power.
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Originally Posted by Asquared
I'm pretty sure you flip the pads to extend pad life, not increase braking power.
More concerned with a loss of power due to less surface area of the pad on the rotor. I agree that there would be no increase in braking ability.
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No performance loss, just flip to increase life..
Old 09-14-2010, 02:47 PM
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Thanks. What I figured. Just making sure.
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Immediately after flipping I would say braking force is compromised until the pads re-seat to their new position. If bevel is severe, I have even experienced a spongy pedal until re-seating has occured.

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Good to know. I'll look out for that.

Thx
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What's the concensus on these pads? I was flipping them today and noticed that what looks like rivets are starting to show through on the right hand side of the left pad.

I'm going to go get new ones tomorrow (I've got some P50s but I'm going to wait until next year to install them since my track work is done for the year).

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Generally if lining material is down to thickness of backing plate I replace the pads. The rivets start to show about that same time as well. And then the pads start to make unhappy noises the thinner they get.

PCCB rotors especially start getting cooked (begin delamination) if you track and lining gets thin. Then your brake job get exponentially more expensive
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You do experience compromised braking first session out after flipping. After that the pads are fine. It depends on the amount they were worn of course.
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Originally Posted by savyboy
Generally if lining material is down to thickness of backing plate I replace the pads. The rivets start to show about that same time as well. ....
X2. Though at that point they will probably work fine on the street for a while longer, the loss of mass reduces the caliper's ability to dissipate heat, and the pad will become much more susceptible to fading under heavy braking. I can usually tell when my pads are getting to this point on the track because of sponginess developing in the pedal feel.
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For DD use flipping is a great option... I would not do it myself for heavy Track / Racing... When my track pads get below 1/2 to 3/4 used... I pull them and keep em' for spares to DD with.



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