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Old 05-16-2010, 12:45 PM
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This is embarrassing for Porsche. So many Porsche cars and no Porsche in the top 5....
Bravo for the RS
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Originally Posted by first997
This is embarrassing for Porsche. So many Porsche cars and no Porsche in the top 5....
Bravo for the RS
Embarrassing? I'd disagree but that's only my opinion.

Bravo to the RS? You bet! Between it's finishing spot and the Hybrid's pace through most of the race, I'd say Porsche did pretty good.
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Default 13. place for GT3 RS- street legal

13. place in total

4. in their class SP 7

145 laps, 9 laps behind winner
fastest lap 9:14.918

Drivers:
Simon Patrick, Wiesbaden
von Saurma Horst, Stuttgart
Asch Roland, Ammerbruch
Harris Chris, Großbritannien

Mods (from what i cab recall from an article in sport auto):
- 18´´Michelin slicks (270 at the rear)...with PSM adaption to handle bigger diameter of this tyre
- full cage
- additional 20 l fuel tank (to take advantage of the 110l max allowed by the rules)
- seat from Cup car (required by the rules)
Old 05-16-2010, 02:43 PM
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i don't think its embarrassing. its racing. **** happens. if the bimmer didn't shunt right in front of Manthey #1 it would have been same result as last 3 years. The hybrid did extremely well for being a prototype. The street RS performance made me very proud to soon be an owner of one.

Chris Harris' twit after the event.

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13th overall in a street car. Beyond wildest dreams. GT3 RS really is a bit special. Off to get very drunk with a load of happy Germans.
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Default Sabine Schmitz's team did not finish

class SP 7
Porsche 997 RSR
122 laps total
total time raced 19:35:51.834
fatest lap 8:51.611
32 laps behind leader

=> seems that they had to retire 4.5 hrs before finish
=> i think i remember team around 10th place in the morning

Drivers
Abbelen Klaus, Barweiler 171.856
Schmitz Sabine, Barweiler
Dr. Althoff Edgar, Viersen
Schornstein Dieter jr., Aachen
Old 05-16-2010, 05:13 PM
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Thumbs up 2010 Nurburgring 24-hour result...

2010 Nurburgring 24-hour result...



Pos. –– Nr. –– Marke –– Lap –– Lap Time

1 –– 25 –– BMW M3 GT2 –– 154 –– 12:17.344
2 –– 43 –– Ferrari F 430 GTC –– 154 –– 9:33.019
3 –– 97 –– Audi R8 LMS –– 153 –– 9:32.691
4 –– 76 –– BMW Z4 GT3 –– 152 –– 10:37.803
5 –– 102 –– Audi R8 LMS –– 152 –– 10:51.149
6 –– 20 –– Porsche GT3 Cup S –– 151 –– 9:27.493
7 –– 26 –– BMW M3 GT2 –– 150 –– 10:52.452
8 –– 18 –– Porsche GT3 Cup S –– 150 –– 10:41.858
9 –– 69 –– BMW Z4 GT3 –– 149 –– 10:04.650
10 –– 35 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 148 –– 10:05.529
11 –– 14 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 147 –– 9:51.098
12 –– 44 –– Nissan Z 33 –– 145 –– 10:15.261
13 –– 11 –– Porsche 911 GT3 RS –– 145 –– 9:56.683 (Chris Harris / HvS / Patrick Simon / Roland Asch)
14 –– 33 –– Porsche GT3 Cup –– 145 –– 10:01.348
15 –– 133 –– Audi TTS –– 144 –– 10:13.279
16 –– 117 –– Volkswagen Scirocco GT24-CNG –– 143 –– 11:21.086
17 –– 9 –– Porsche GT3 R Hybrid –– 142 –– 8:45.243 (Bergmeister / Lietz / Holzer / Ragginger)
18 –– 28 –– Porsche 997 Cup –– 142 –– 11:53.099
19 –– 50 –– Lexus LF-A –– 142 –– 13:47.310
20 –– 142 –– Opel Astra OPC –– 141 –– 11:04.473
21 –– 88 –– Porsche GT3 Cup S –– 141 –– 9:46.524
22 –– 169 –– BMW Z4 Coupe –– 140 –– 14:34.092
23 –– 141 –– Opel Astra OPC –– 140 –– 11:04.216
24 –– 70 –– Audi RS 4 –– 140 –– 10:57.487
25 –– 137 –– Subaru GRB –– 139 –– 10:06.699
26 –– 96 –– BMW M3 GT4 –– 139 –– 11:44.227
27 –– 106 –– BMW E 46 GTR –– 137 –– 13:56.987
28 –– 61 –– Aston Martin Vantage V8 –– 137 –– 11:14.500
29 –– 48 –– Porsche 997 –– 137 –– 11:08.376
30 –– 42 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 137 –– 9:50.002
31 –– 158 –– Honda S 2000 –– 136 –– 10:42.297
32 –– 146 –– VW Golf –– 136 –– 11:40.637
33 –– 120 –– BMW M3 GT4 –– 134 –– 10:38.765
34 –– 37 –– Porsche 996 GT3 Cup –– 134 –– 11:04.931
35 –– 7 –– Aston Martin Rapide –– 134 –– 14:05.952
36 –– 184 –– Audi A3 –– 133 –– 11:16.215
37 –– 139 –– Seat Leon Supercopa –– 132 –– 12:40.116
38 –– 219 –– BMW E36 M3 –– 132 –– 11:43.412
39 –– 148 –– Subaru Impreza –– 132 –– 16:35.743
40 –– 6 –– Aston Martin V12 Vantage –– 132 –– 13:44.272 (Richard Meaden / Porritt / Mathai / Cate)
41 –– 226 –– BMW M3 –– 131 –– 11:28.621
42 –– 63 –– Chevrolet Corvette –– 131 –– 11:31.680
43 –– 82 –– BMW 135 i –– 131 –– 11:43.845
44 –– 232 –– BMW E46 M3 –– 131 –– 11:59.453
45 –– 162 –– Opel Astra GTC –– 131 –– 11:08.708
46 –– 180 –– BMW Z4 3.0 si –– 131 –– 13:58.997
47 –– 59 –– Aston Martin N24 –– 130 –– 12:42.930
48 –– 90 –– BMW M3 E46 –– 130 –– 13:57.437
49 –– 223 –– BMW Z 85 / DU 51 –– 130 –– 11:47.581
50 –– 183 –– Renault Clio III Cup –– 128 –– 14:01.978
51 –– 201 –– Peugeot RC Z –– 128 –– 11:43.605
52 –– 118 –– Volkswagen Scirocco GT24-CNG –– 128 –– 9:32.410
53 –– 213 –– BMW E 90 –– 128 –– 12:51.373
54 –– 122 –– Volvo Heico HS3 Bioethanol –– 128 –– 13:49.709
55 –– 151 –– Renault Clio –– 128 –– 13:54.251
56 –– 23 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 127 –– 12:10.831
57 –– 86 –– BMW Z4 M-Coupe –– 127 –– 10:42.029
58 –– 87 –– Nissan 350 Z –– 127 –– 26:43.568
59 –– 224 –– BMW E 36 M3 –– 127 –– 12:02.121
60 –– 72 –– Lexus IS F –– 127 –– 10:35.443
61 –– 214 –– Mercedes Benz C 230 –– 126 –– 14:10.690
62 –– 2 –– ABT Audi R8 LMS –– 125 –– 8:47.284
63 –– 205 –– BMW E36 318 IS –– 125 –– 14:36.264
64 –– 218 –– BMW E87 130i –– 125 –– 13:44.866
65 –– 237 –– BMW M3 –– 125 –– 10:58.721
66 –– 125 –– Audi TTS –– 125 –– 12:11.127
67 –– 211 –– BMW 320 iS –– 125 –– 11:14.665
68 –– 167 –– Renault Clio Cup –– 125 –– 12:27.391
69 –– 175 –– Alfa Romeo 147 JTD –– 125 –– 11:42.839
70 –– 164 –– Renault Clio RS III –– 125 –– 12:03.041
71 –– 113 –– BMW 130 i –– 125 –– 11:31.319
72 –– 236 –– Porsche Cayman S –– 125 –– 12:42.904
73 –– 126 –– Ford Mondeo –– 125 –– 13:03.178
74 –– 116 –– Volkswagen Scirocco GT24-CNG –– 124 –– 12:09.000
75 –– 235 –– BMW M3 E46 –– 124 –– 13:46.484
76 –– 212 –– BMW 325 i –– 123 –– 13:16.658
77 –– 233 –– Mercedes Benz SLK 350 –– 123 –– 11:40.768
78 –– 80 –– BMW 330 i –– 123 –– 13:17.555
79 –– 206 –– BMW 318 iS –– 123 –– 14:19.905
80 –– 40 –– Porsche 997 RSR –– 122 –– 9:28.976
81 –– 60 –– Aston Martin Vantage V8 –– 122 –– 11:23.215
82 –– 200 –– Peugeot RC Z –– 122 –– 11:44.184
83 –– 119 –– Seat Supercopa –– 121 –– 12:08.039
84 –– 135 –– Audi A3 –– 121 –– 10:00.571
85 –– 244 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 120 –– 10:57.731
86 –– 243 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 120 –– 10:59.547
87 –– 74 –– Aston Martin N24 –– 120 –– 40:42.843
88 –– 41 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 120 –– 11:43.873
89 –– 155 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 120 –– 13:50.246
90 –– 215 –– BMW 325 i E90 –– 119 –– 13:29.300
91 –– 193 –– BMW 330d –– 119 –– 11:57.759
92 –– 246 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 119 –– 11:11.073
93 –– 220 –– BMW Z4 Coupe –– 118 –– 1:28:03.022
94 –– 225 –– BMW E36 M3 –– 118 –– 12:31.904
95 –– 49 –– Audi R8 –– 117 –– 13:14.171
96 –– 85 –– Porsche 911 –– 116 –– 9:39.399
97 –– 153 –– VW Golf III Kitcar –– 115 –– 12:50.687
98 –– 176 –– BMW 120 d –– 115 –– 14:33.735
99 –– 127 –– Ford Focus ST –– 114 –– 13:48.782
100 –– 129 –– BMW 325 i E92 –– 114 –– 11:56.635



Old 05-16-2010, 06:35 PM
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Mike, as noted Sabine's team didn't end up doing so well. Mechanical problems took them out of the top 10 which they were running for a long time through the night/morning.

I think maybe a bit embarrassing or rather big let down for Porsche Manthey because of how much that team is factory backed and with five cars and not one Top 10 finish is a huge kick in the nuts. Yes it's all part of the risk in running a 24 hour race. I'm glad they managed to salvage what they could for the Hybrid. I just hope that next years edition will bring as many factory backed teams/drivers and top manufactures as this years race did. Audi, Ferrari (Le Mans entry as well), BMW, Porsche that's a good bit of participants right there.

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Old 05-17-2010, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by carrering
i don't think its embarrassing. its racing. **** happens. if the bimmer didn't shunt right in front of Manthey #1 it would have been same result as last 3 years. The hybrid did extremely well for being a prototype. The street RS performance made me very proud to soon be an owner of one.

Chris Harris' twit after the event.

harrismonkey
13th overall in a street car. Beyond wildest dreams. GT3 RS really is a bit special. Off to get very drunk with a load of happy Germans.
If the GT3 RS pulled 13th place imagine what a stock GT2 RS could do...
Old 05-17-2010, 01:41 PM
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6th place and highest Porsche placing was powered by RS Tuning engine - funny how Porsche politics totally ignores "outsiders"
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Keep in mind that the street GT3 RS is rated at 450Hp, same power as most ALMS GT2 cars. It was loaded with slicks (Michelin slicks from the SuperCup series), PCCB were removed and substituted with steel rotors, full cage (stiffer car), re-programmed ABS, stiffer springs, most likely matching shocks for those springs.

Street car engine, transmission, brakes, aero. Unfortunately, the fastest race lap was a 9:14, around 13 secs slower to what Walter Rohrl did last month in the 4 hours race with this same car. Obviously, traffic is an issue in the 24hr race (more entrants), but still far off the pace.

13th overall in a street car is very remarkable. It is also a true statement about the solid reliability of this powertrain, while Cups, RSR, Hybrid were breaking and retiring left and right, this car made it. Porsche should consult Ferrari and BMW about reliability on high performance race cars (j/k).

By the way, feel free to congratule Leh Keen over at the Race forum. He was one of the Ferrari F430 drivers that made it to 2nd place overall, the only other car finishing in the lead lap, and just a week after winning One Lap of America in a 996 GT2.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
re-programmed ABS
Any way to get this done on our cars?
Old 05-18-2010, 01:38 PM
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Thumbs up 2010 Nurburgring 24-hour – Chris Harris comment...

2010 Nurburgring 24-hour – Chris Harris comment...

“CHRIS HARRIS: REFLECTING ON THE N24 - THE GT3 RS'S FINEST HOUR”

(18 May 2010)

Not having ever taken Acid, I’m not quite sure if my current state-of-mind can be likened to coming down from a trip, but it must be close.



I’m at that junction where Euphoria subsides and the blues begin. There’s now a void where last week an all-consuming project controlled everything.

That’s the strange thing about motorsport: it’s so tightly contained - both temporally and geographically – and the sport itself is so ubiquitous that today’s victory is, for anyone not directly connected with it, yesterday’s vague memory.

I went to the paddock yesterday morning to collect something and it was already mostly deserted. For someone who never wanted Sunday 16th May 2010 to end, it looked too bare; too empty. Twelve hours earlier it was the centre of my universe; swollen, spilling-over with people and machinery. It’s the most exciting paddock in the world – as befits the best race in the world.

Of course you’re going to get a sizeable story in EVO soon, and a video too, so now isn’t the time to drop into minute detail of the event. But I’m just here wondering if my understanding of motorsport might just have altered over the past week.

A few hours before we crossed the line in the Eiffel, Mark Webber won the Monaco Grand Prix – and he deserved the victory. But he did it in a machine that doesn’t look like a car, in a team whose real business is energy drinks, powered by an engine made by a French car company whose everyday wares couldn’t be further removed from Formula One.

Manufacturer Motorsport exists to sell cars – whether by increased exposure or engineering development – and I’m still not convinced, for example, that Mercedes sells any more cars because it is entered into the F1 championship.

Perhaps Porsche won’t sell any more 911s on the back of this past weekend – who knows? But as a demonstration of what works racing should be about - race on Sunday; sell on Monday – it was stunning. More meaningful for me as a car enthusiast than the strange world of double-diffusers, or using the back of your left hand to cover a vent that stalls a rear wing. Perhaps Fduct is actually a metaphor for the state of the sport?

Porsche drove a street car to the world’s toughest race, vastly exceeded any expectations over 150 hard laps of the Nordschleife, and then drove it home again.

It was many things to many people: special, notable, interesting, emotional, testing and, at times, scary. But most of all, it was tangible.



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Why isn't Rohrl listed as a driver?
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Originally Posted by Project 951
Why isn't Rohrl listed as a driver?
I believe he withdrew due to health issues near the last minute
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
I believe he withdrew due to health issues near the last minute
that's a shame. i was looking forward to see some of his brilliance behind the wheel


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