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what's that black tow truck on the left? I only see the two dream cars.
oh that's a mercedes? get that trash out of the way. don't let it in the same room as those cars! lol
oh that's a mercedes? get that trash out of the way. don't let it in the same room as those cars! lol
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The F40 and the S600 aren't mine....neither is the house so don't come over.
I NEED an F40 (and will buy one in '08), could care less about the house and sold my E63 last week.
700-ish miles and counting on the CGT since I bought it.
Josh
I NEED an F40 (and will buy one in '08), could care less about the house and sold my E63 last week.
700-ish miles and counting on the CGT since I bought it.
Josh
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I'm hurt you didn't try to sell me the wagon but I would be a bit worried about the cars history given your Austin Powers lifestyle.
Mike
Pete is right... uh oh...
#53
Hey Joe, did you say "driving experience?"
Two from all the years stand tall above the rest:
1988 Ruf CTR (if I could have only one 911...)
2004 Carrera GT (game over).
The CTR1 takes everything lovable about the experience of driving an early 911 and pairs that with the power and -- if you're up to the challenge -- pace of a modern GT2/GT3. And the noises are strictly RSR, how with two turbos I do not know. The C-GT is just one of the very best Porsches -- and sports cars -- ever made, and does not "do" it with electronic trickery. The shifting is awe-inspiring, the clutch very learnable, the handling big fun, the engine seamless and powerful everywhere. And the noises are strictly ALMS, and insanely good.
Add in something early (SWB?) and something a little more usable more of the time (i.e. nearly any late 911, and your 964, 993, or GT3 will certainly do) and you'd be done this side of race cars.
Just my 2 cents.
pete
Two from all the years stand tall above the rest:
1988 Ruf CTR (if I could have only one 911...)
2004 Carrera GT (game over).
The CTR1 takes everything lovable about the experience of driving an early 911 and pairs that with the power and -- if you're up to the challenge -- pace of a modern GT2/GT3. And the noises are strictly RSR, how with two turbos I do not know. The C-GT is just one of the very best Porsches -- and sports cars -- ever made, and does not "do" it with electronic trickery. The shifting is awe-inspiring, the clutch very learnable, the handling big fun, the engine seamless and powerful everywhere. And the noises are strictly ALMS, and insanely good.
Add in something early (SWB?) and something a little more usable more of the time (i.e. nearly any late 911, and your 964, 993, or GT3 will certainly do) and you'd be done this side of race cars.
Just my 2 cents.
pete
Seeing those pictures of 001 makes me smile. I lived with that goofy thing for 2.5 months and 2,500 miles, something I still can't believe. And something I'll never forget.
As for the C-GT, it's a "better" car in every way than the CTR and remains, by miles, the best car of any kind I have ever driven in terms of its overall excellence, its chassis, its brakes, its engine, its transmission, its shifting, and the noises it makes.
The C-GT's clutch is a piece o' cake once you learn new muscle memory. Even uphill starts (without slipping the clutch) aren't an issue once you get it. And, contrary to popular opinion, I do not think the C-GT is hard to drive quickly, at least at 7/10ths to 9/10ths after you learn the car. I have not been to 10/10ths nor 11/10ths, so I cannot comment on its behavior at the ragged edge.
The C-GT is, however, intimidating if you have your head screwed on straight for the first 200-400 miles. There is a LOT of responsibility that rests with you when you are in that car. You also sit well in-board, which makes it feel very wide, and see very little (nothing, actually) of what is ahead of you.
And, well, it's a 600+hp, $400k Porsche.
I think Josh hit the nail on the head re: what you were probably searching for when you bought a Ferrari (I thought the same thing when you did), but for all of the above a C-GT is no replacement for a CTR, or some sort of 911 in the garage.
And so many of the ones in your garage would be on my short list of perfect complementary 911s to keep alongside a C-GT.
But above all of them would be the CTR. Its noises are a match for the C-GT in terms of thrill factor, just very different, and it remains the best-sounding flat six I have ever heard. For this to be true of a turbo motor is nuts. As for the rest of the experience, the car just shouldn't work as well as it does, but it does. For me, the CTR is the ultimate air-cooled driver's 911 among everything I have driven (still missing 911R and 964 RS).
I dunno, you can't lose anyway you go here. But if I could have only three Porsches, it would be:
-Ruf CTR
-Carrera GT
and...
then...
One of the following:
-Very trick 914-6
-964 RS
-993 RS
-Toyo Cup 911
-996 GT3 Mk. II
I'd have a tough time with the last few, but the other two are no-brainers for me.
pete
As for the C-GT, it's a "better" car in every way than the CTR and remains, by miles, the best car of any kind I have ever driven in terms of its overall excellence, its chassis, its brakes, its engine, its transmission, its shifting, and the noises it makes.
The C-GT's clutch is a piece o' cake once you learn new muscle memory. Even uphill starts (without slipping the clutch) aren't an issue once you get it. And, contrary to popular opinion, I do not think the C-GT is hard to drive quickly, at least at 7/10ths to 9/10ths after you learn the car. I have not been to 10/10ths nor 11/10ths, so I cannot comment on its behavior at the ragged edge.
The C-GT is, however, intimidating if you have your head screwed on straight for the first 200-400 miles. There is a LOT of responsibility that rests with you when you are in that car. You also sit well in-board, which makes it feel very wide, and see very little (nothing, actually) of what is ahead of you.
And, well, it's a 600+hp, $400k Porsche.
I think Josh hit the nail on the head re: what you were probably searching for when you bought a Ferrari (I thought the same thing when you did), but for all of the above a C-GT is no replacement for a CTR, or some sort of 911 in the garage.
And so many of the ones in your garage would be on my short list of perfect complementary 911s to keep alongside a C-GT.
But above all of them would be the CTR. Its noises are a match for the C-GT in terms of thrill factor, just very different, and it remains the best-sounding flat six I have ever heard. For this to be true of a turbo motor is nuts. As for the rest of the experience, the car just shouldn't work as well as it does, but it does. For me, the CTR is the ultimate air-cooled driver's 911 among everything I have driven (still missing 911R and 964 RS).
I dunno, you can't lose anyway you go here. But if I could have only three Porsches, it would be:
-Ruf CTR
-Carrera GT
and...
then...
One of the following:
-Very trick 914-6
-964 RS
-993 RS
-Toyo Cup 911
-996 GT3 Mk. II
I'd have a tough time with the last few, but the other two are no-brainers for me.
pete
I'm also curious to hear a CTR, so hopefully somebody knows where's there's a high quality recording somewhere out there in the pipes of the Intarwebs.
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RS197,
I can only speak from experience here, so please take this for what it's worth.
Years ago, I lived in AZ, with orange and grapefruit trees in my front yard. One helluva thing -- meaning really, really nice. Would you believe that not once did I ever feel the need to own the best electric fruit juicer on the market?!!! (Geez, can you imagine what my peers said about that?).
With regard to feeling the need to have an RS, this of course begs the question, in your present locale, do you have money trees in your front yard?
Are you a musician? Do you feel the need to have the best Stradivarius? The best Fender? The best Gibson? The best DW kit?
Are you that good?
Is anyone here that good?
Or is something stuck up their noses, in a snobbery, slobbery sort of way? Hell, perhaps it's an epidemic?
Perhaps something's leaking in Denmark. And yes, anyway you look at it, it smells bad.
I can only speak from experience here, so please take this for what it's worth.
Years ago, I lived in AZ, with orange and grapefruit trees in my front yard. One helluva thing -- meaning really, really nice. Would you believe that not once did I ever feel the need to own the best electric fruit juicer on the market?!!! (Geez, can you imagine what my peers said about that?).
With regard to feeling the need to have an RS, this of course begs the question, in your present locale, do you have money trees in your front yard?
Are you a musician? Do you feel the need to have the best Stradivarius? The best Fender? The best Gibson? The best DW kit?
Are you that good?
Is anyone here that good?
Or is something stuck up their noses, in a snobbery, slobbery sort of way? Hell, perhaps it's an epidemic?
Perhaps something's leaking in Denmark. And yes, anyway you look at it, it smells bad.
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RS197,
I can only speak from experience here, so please take this for what it's worth.
Years ago, I lived in AZ, with orange and grapefruit trees in my front yard. One helluva thing -- meaning really, really nice. Would you believe that not once did I ever feel the need to own the best electric fruit juicer on the market?!!! (Geez, can you imagine what my peers said about that?).
With regard to feeling the need to have an RS, this of course begs the question, in your present locale, do you have money trees in your front yard?
Are you a musician? Do you feel the need to have the best Stradivarius? The best Fender? The best Gibson? The best DW kit?
Are you that good?
Is anyone here that good?
Or is something stuck up their noses, in a snobbery, slobbery sort of way? Hell, perhaps it's an epidemic?
Perhaps something's leaking in Denmark. And yes, anyway you look at it, it smells bad.
I can only speak from experience here, so please take this for what it's worth.
Years ago, I lived in AZ, with orange and grapefruit trees in my front yard. One helluva thing -- meaning really, really nice. Would you believe that not once did I ever feel the need to own the best electric fruit juicer on the market?!!! (Geez, can you imagine what my peers said about that?).
With regard to feeling the need to have an RS, this of course begs the question, in your present locale, do you have money trees in your front yard?
Are you a musician? Do you feel the need to have the best Stradivarius? The best Fender? The best Gibson? The best DW kit?
Are you that good?
Is anyone here that good?
Or is something stuck up their noses, in a snobbery, slobbery sort of way? Hell, perhaps it's an epidemic?
Perhaps something's leaking in Denmark. And yes, anyway you look at it, it smells bad.
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Joe:
Street or Track? If Track I would go for the new RSR un-believable weapon. If street lots of choices, while it might be pedestrian I do like the c4s very nice cruiser with some zip.
Street or Track? If Track I would go for the new RSR un-believable weapon. If street lots of choices, while it might be pedestrian I do like the c4s very nice cruiser with some zip.
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joe,
some ppl just envy what you got!
if u want a p car, CGT or 959. you got everything else worth owning ALREADY.
maybe get a GT1? saw one in person in CA..... man, no need for viagra.
some ppl just envy what you got!
if u want a p car, CGT or 959. you got everything else worth owning ALREADY.
maybe get a GT1? saw one in person in CA..... man, no need for viagra.