grussell

some more pics

lawjdc

John, John - divorce never results in more money, always less money, much less money!

-Doug

grussell

Much, much, much, much less money, but more, more, more..........you know

VB997

Done...really going to paint shop tomorrow!

grussell

congrats! You beat me.

str8ner

If your wife is a track addict has you are, would divorce still result in much less money? May be more money and more of you know what.

Unknown.

str8ner

John,

By hijacking my thread you made it very interesting!

Stephan

NJ-GT

John, Garrett,

Do you mind sharing the spring rates used? I took pictures of a GrandAm 997 GT3 Cup at SEMA, and the car had 450#/550# springs, weird.

Both of your cars are my favorite 997 GT3s.

TripleM

Interesting...450/550lbs sound quite soft to me but then again it's a stripped out car

mooty

i got zero right now.
after divorce, i'll have 1/2 of hers.

grussell

NJ-GT,

I have 1100 rear and 1000 front

VB997

Usually at big shows like that teams will change out parts when they don't want everyone to know what they're doing. Spring rates and setup are not usually "free to the public" type information. My guess is we are probably getting our leg pulled. I do know of a team that was once all about heavy springs and has now started running lighter springs but not that light. Two years ago if you walked through the paddock at a Grand Am race you would find 997 GS teams running spring rates from 1400 to 2200 lbs, now they have gone in the other direction and started using softer springs. Additionally, you get different answers from different teams as to where the heavier springs are located. Some teams say they run the heavier spring rates up front, some run them in the rear and some teams run the same spring rates in each corner. Believe half of what you see and hear from the pro teams because believe me, they are not going to GIVE away the info that cost them ridiculous amounts of money to learn while testing.

One more point; spring rates are somewhat "personal and territorial". Meaning, who's driving the car and where? What is the drivers "style"? how do they like the car to feel? are they a finesse driver or do they muscle the car around the track? Are they racing a bumpy track or a smooth track? My point is that we can't just look at a pro team car on display and say the XYZ team runs this spring rate because there is no way of knowing where they just came from or what they were doing. The car at the show could have just come from a charity event where they let returning veterans play follow the leader behind a pace car at a bumpy track for all we know. I've seen teams "scrub" the numbers on springs and bar code them so even if you were in their pit as a guest at an event you wouldn't know. The setup card for winning race teams is usually played close to the chest.

And to answer your question (finally! right?), I currently have 1100 # up front and 1200# in the rear but that might change depending on how different the car is with the new cage.

NJ-GT

John,

That's exactly what I suspected. I just came from a 450/650 set (quite soft, with focus on autocross), to my current 750/1000 setup for my 2,850 lbs 996 GT3.

Rad

VB997

Updated shots.

Trj

Insane!