New GT2? Why?
08-24-2007, 03:36 PM
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That's ridiculous. There is nothing dangerous about the 996 GT2. Throw a couple grand at an old 930 and you have a car that's more powerful and much more of a handful than a GT2. A car is not dangerous by itself - it takes an irresponsible driver to bring danger into the equation. And for god's sake, it's not THAT fast. You make it sound like it's an uncontrollable car that only Michael Schumacher could tame... give me a break 
I've said it before... we all come with a portable, built-in traction control device - it's called your brain. It controls your right foot.
I've said it before... we all come with a portable, built-in traction control device - it's called your brain. It controls your right foot.
08-24-2007, 07:21 PM
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That's ridiculous. There is nothing dangerous about the 996 GT2. Throw a couple grand at an old 930 and you have a car that's more powerful and much more of a handful than a GT2. A car is not dangerous by itself - it takes an irresponsible driver to bring danger into the equation. And for god's sake, it's not THAT fast. You make it sound like it's an uncontrollable car that only Michael Schumacher could tame... give me a break
I've said it before... we all come with a portable, built-in traction control device - it's called your brain. It controls your right foot.
I've said it before... we all come with a portable, built-in traction control device - it's called your brain. It controls your right foot.
An irresponsible driver will make even a Toyota Corolla dangerous. All it takes to make a GT2 dangerous is an untrained / inexperienced driver. And that includes a lot of people who might buy one.
My feeling is that if a car is specifically designed for use on the track, then it should not have safety nets. But the GT2 is a road car. Porsche should make a GT2 RS with less weight and no PSM. I also think the GT3 should have PSM, and the GT3 RS should be stripped of a few hundred pounds and should not have PSM.
08-24-2007, 10:23 PM
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That's ridiculous. There is nothing dangerous about the 996 GT2. Throw a couple grand at an old 930 and you have a car that's more powerful and much more of a handful than a GT2. A car is not dangerous by itself - it takes an irresponsible driver to bring danger into the equation. And for god's sake, it's not THAT fast. You make it sound like it's an uncontrollable car that only Michael Schumacher could tame... give me a break
I've said it before... we all come with a portable, built-in traction control device - it's called your brain. It controls your right foot.
I've said it before... we all come with a portable, built-in traction control device - it's called your brain. It controls your right foot.
A 964 Turbo is way way more "dangerous."
08-24-2007, 10:26 PM
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You're absolutely right about the old 930. And you're also right that the GT2 is not THAT fast. The dangerous part of the GT2 is not its speed or power, it's the suddenness of its torque delivery as the turbos spool up. Combine a corner, an inadequately programmed cerebral TC device and the sudden application of 500 lb-ft, and watch out!
An irresponsible driver will make even a Toyota Corolla dangerous. All it takes to make a GT2 dangerous is an untrained / inexperienced driver. And that includes a lot of people who might buy one.
An irresponsible driver will make even a Toyota Corolla dangerous. All it takes to make a GT2 dangerous is an untrained / inexperienced driver. And that includes a lot of people who might buy one.
The "sudden" 500lb-ft is what makes this car fun to drive.
08-25-2007, 07:31 AM
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08-25-2007, 06:16 PM
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I don't want to start a flame war here, but come on you must be kidding - you guys who laud the benefits of traction control really need to look up the definition of "sports car." Street or track, a car that saves you from your lack of skill does not fit the definition. Go play a video game if you want to go fast without consequences. And leave the GT2 for real drivers.
08-25-2007, 08:36 PM
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I don't want to start a flame war here, but come on you must be kidding - you guys who laud the benefits of traction control really need to look up the definition of "sports car." Street or track, a car that saves you from your lack of skill does not fit the definition. Go play a video game if you want to go fast without consequences. And leave the GT2 for real drivers.
08-25-2007, 09:58 PM
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I don't want to start a flame war here, but come on you must be kidding - you guys who laud the benefits of traction control really need to look up the definition of "sports car." Street or track, a car that saves you from your lack of skill does not fit the definition. Go play a video game if you want to go fast without consequences. And leave the GT2 for real drivers.
BTW, "going fast without consequences" is pretty much my daily goal on public streets. In video games I simply aim for "going fast".
08-26-2007, 01:51 AM
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All I'm saying is that I see the logic of PSM in a car like a GT2. I'm not claiming that PSM helps its case as a sports car. I understand these things - I drive a 996 RS as a daily driver.
BTW, "going fast without consequences" is pretty much my daily goal on public streets. In video games I simply aim for "going fast".
BTW, "going fast without consequences" is pretty much my daily goal on public streets. In video games I simply aim for "going fast".