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Old 07-16-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default GT2 to be unveiled on 9/11/07 at Frankfurt

US MSRP: $191,700.
From Porsche Press release:

ATLANTA, July 16 /CNW/ - With a stunning 530 turbocharged horsepower and
the most revolutionary design in the industry, Porsche will reveal its most
powerful production 911 ever on September 11, 2007 at the Frankfurt Motor
Show. Based on the current 911 Turbo, the 911 GT2 will easily ascend to lead
the impressive Porsche family of vehicles.

New features such as large air intakes at the front and the rear wing,
coupled with the rear-wheel drive and manual six-speed gearbox, express the
elite performance abilities that are exclusive to this outstanding model. This
high-performance athlete accelerates to 60 mph in just 3.6 seconds and reaches
a top track speed of 204 mph.

530-Horsepower Twin-Turbo Engine

The power unit of the new 911 GT2 is based on the six-cylinder boxer
engine of the 911 Turbo, with air supply driven by two exhaust gas
turbochargers featuring variable turbine geometry (VTG). The 3.6-litre boxer
engine achieves a maximum output of 530 (SAE) horsepower, an increase of 50
horsepower from the previous 911 GT2. The power increase is provided by two
turbochargers with a larger compressor wheel and a flow-optimized turbine
housing raising turbocharger pressure to an even higher level.

Decreased Fuel Consumption

The new 911 GT2's expansion intake manifold, which uses oscillating air
in the intake during the cooler expansion phase, keeps the temperature of the
fuel/air mixture even lower than in the 911 Turbo. This results in a
significant increase in all-round efficiency, with fuel consumption down by up
to 15 percent under full load despite the increase in engine output. This is a
genuine innovation for turbocharged power units.

Functional Design Features

A number of elements set the new 911 GT2 apart including the new
achievements in emission management and control. This is the first Porsche
homologated for the road to feature a muffler and tailpipes made of titanium
as standard equipment. This expensive material reduces weight by approximately
50 percent vs. a comparable component made of stainless steel.

The new 911 GT2 comes as standard with PCCB brakes featuring brake discs
made of a composite carbon fiber/ceramic compound ensuring highly consistent
and maximum stopping power. Also standard is the electronically controlled
Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) system.

The GT2 comes on 19-inch light-alloy wheels filled with 235/35 ZR 19
front sport tires and 325/30 ZR 19 rear sport tires. It is scheduled to make
its North American debut in early 2008 at a US price of $191,700.
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Originally Posted by navigator
It is scheduled to make
its North American debut in early 2008 at a US price of $191,700.
Thanks for posting. I couldn't corroborate that price and availability info on the following Porsche PR sites; could you point me in the right direction?

http://www.porsche.com/usa/aboutpors...&id=2007-07-16

http://www.porsche.com/usa/aboutpors...releases/pcna/
Old 07-16-2007, 03:13 PM
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Hmmmm.....that MSRP works out to around $220K CAD once landed here......as I have a deposit on the first one at my dealer, I wonder what they are going to have as the Canadian MSRP.

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Old 07-16-2007, 03:29 PM
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Canadian MSRP may even be closer to C$265K given Porsche's current differences in C$ vs. US$ pricing (i.e., a GT3 is US$106, but C$147).
nkhalidi - I got the info from here:
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/a.../16/c6750.html
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Weight?
Old 07-16-2007, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JUSTIN.
Weight?
I think I read somewhere that it was 3156 pounds.
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Decreased Fuel Consumption

The new 911 GT2's expansion intake manifold, which uses oscillating air
in the intake during the cooler expansion phase, keeps the temperature of the
fuel/air mixture even lower than in the 911 Turbo. This results in a
significant increase in all-round efficiency, with fuel consumption down by up
to 15 percent under full load despite the increase in engine output. This is a
genuine innovation for turbocharged power units.
fuel consumption improvement is more likely due to less drag - elimination of parasitic losses from 4wd, lower ride height, lower weight - rather than the "expansion intake." Colder intake air = increased fuel metering and consumption!! Denser intake air requires more fuel to achieve the same AFR. I love the marketing BS

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I currently know of one that will not be spec'ed by a dealer and will go to the highest bidder...not mine but it should go to a nice Lister home...
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Originally Posted by eclou
fuel consumption improvement is more likely due to less drag - elimination of parasitic losses from 4wd, lower ride height, lower weight - rather than the "expansion intake." Colder intake air = increased fuel metering and consumption!! Denser intake air requires more fuel to achieve the same AFR. I love the marketing BS
Actually, not always the case, I have had several turbo engined cars tuned by skilful tuners and not only gained torque and horsepower but also improved milage. Part of the tuning involves making more efficient use of the fuel that is delivered.

Sometimes the improvement in fuel consumption is lost by using the extra performance gained. I do remember driving two models of the same cars at very similar speeds over the same trip, both as delivered by the manufacturer, one put out about 15% more bhp than the other and burned 15% less gasoline, as far as the log book was concerned. When I mentioned this back at the factory, they were slightly embarrassed and said, yes, that was so.

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Robin,

I am assuming the same target AFR of say 11:1. If a tuner wants to run the car at 12.5:1 it will use less fuel of course, but be dancing closer to the danger zone. Some GM tuners have actually implemented a "hyper-lean" cruising mode in their performance programs to achieve AFR's in the 20:1 or leaner, which is great for gas mileage. I have not done a wideband on my turbo yet but I expect the AFR's to be in the 10's. Instead of leaning out fuel to get better mileage, I would rather increase the the boost to achieve the same AFR!
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I heard a copy of the brochure with all the specifications were leaked to the public just this past Friday...
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Originally Posted by eclou
I am assuming the same target AFR of say 11:1. If a tuner wants to run the car at 12.5:1 it will use less fuel of course, but be dancing closer to the danger zone.!
I agree. In the cae I outlined, the engine in question is possibly the strongest 4 cylinder engine currently around. Quite reliable at over 200 bhp per litre. So the tuner, having been the engine boss at Tresser (yes, we are talking Group B rally cars), was quite relaxed about changing the AFR.

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Nordschleife, is the engine you speak of the venerable Mitsu 2.0L turbo powerplant?
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Top track speed of 204?

At which tracks do you get to see top end?

Funny how they have to word that....
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Originally Posted by hammerwerfer
Top track speed of 204?

At which tracks do you get to see top end?

Funny how they have to word that....
That's because we don't gots them autobahn like you.

I do know of several people in .de that regularly do over 300km/h in their Turbo's.

Must be nice.


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