The additional "170 RS's are coming" concept got lost in its previous thread...
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Originally Posted by gt3racerich
Jan 18 I posted that more RS's are likely, they will be model year 08.
April 8 I posted "There will be 08 RS's for North America as well. The anouncement will come in June. There will be the same number for 08 as there was in 07". I was going to start a thread with this info but did not need to here the crap from guys that really did not have any info, just did not want to see any more cars,(you were one of the first people to do that, by the way, so I find it funny that you start a thread like this since you think it is so boring)so I just put it in as a reply.
I have conformation from multiple sourses from PCNA. Not a dealer or a friend who knows so and so.
Sorry I will not provide their names, take it for what it is worth. 08 RS's are coming. The only debate now is how many. My latest info is a few less then 07.
Rich
Some additional info: There is a lot of talk about Porsche wanting these cars to get to the right people, special customers, etc. The cars will be allocated to dealers the same way as last year, the allocations go according to how many 911's a dealer sells. It will be up to the dealers to do what they see fit. Nothing new there.
I am very hopefull that I will be ordering my car next month. I know a lot of you guys do not want to see that. Sorry if it ruins your day. Not really.
April 8 I posted "There will be 08 RS's for North America as well. The anouncement will come in June. There will be the same number for 08 as there was in 07". I was going to start a thread with this info but did not need to here the crap from guys that really did not have any info, just did not want to see any more cars,(you were one of the first people to do that, by the way, so I find it funny that you start a thread like this since you think it is so boring)so I just put it in as a reply.
I have conformation from multiple sourses from PCNA. Not a dealer or a friend who knows so and so.
Sorry I will not provide their names, take it for what it is worth. 08 RS's are coming. The only debate now is how many. My latest info is a few less then 07.
Rich
Some additional info: There is a lot of talk about Porsche wanting these cars to get to the right people, special customers, etc. The cars will be allocated to dealers the same way as last year, the allocations go according to how many 911's a dealer sells. It will be up to the dealers to do what they see fit. Nothing new there.
I am very hopefull that I will be ordering my car next month. I know a lot of you guys do not want to see that. Sorry if it ruins your day. Not really.
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At the end of the day, even if they make an 08, how many cars are we really looking at in the US? 300? That is a very small amount of cars. The chance of seeing more than one or two in your area is tiny. The addition of an 08 model should not significantly impact the resale. It will still be extremely hard to get one. I think you will still see speculators and even dealers trying to flip cars for a profit.
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Originally Posted by ebanzero
At the end of the day, even if they make an 08, how many cars are we really looking at in the US? 300? That is a very small amount of cars. The chance of seeing more than one or two in your area is tiny. The addition of an 08 model should not significantly impact the resale. It will still be extremely hard to get one. I think you will still see speculators and even dealers trying to flip cars for a profit.
WRT the above....how many of you think the new '08's will be sold at MSRP?....seems like a heavy bit of profiteering will occur at the "favored client's" expense.
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Originally Posted by leif997
WRT the above....how many of you think the new '08's will be sold at MSRP?....seems like a heavy bit of profiteering will occur at the "favored client's" expense.
Well now that "the cat is out of the bag" so to speak, there will probably be more people trying to make a profit on the 08's. Back when the 07's were all sold, there wasn't all this hype surrounding the car. The enthusiasts all knew what the car was, but no one, including Porsche, thought it was going to be this crazy. That is why they only offered 270 cars. Now that the demand is skyrocketing they decided to offer more cars for 08, hoping to get some more cars into enthusiast's hands at MSRP, and of course make a profit for themselves. Unfortunately, this may back-fire, and just end up putting more cars out there for over list. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
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Originally Posted by ebanzero
At the end of the day, even if they make an 08, how many cars are we really looking at in the US? 300? That is a very small amount of cars. The chance of seeing more than one or two in your area is tiny. The addition of an 08 model should not significantly impact the resale. It will still be extremely hard to get one. I think you will still see speculators and even dealers trying to flip cars for a profit.
Of which probably 10% are total loss at this point.
No modern Porsche has any resale in the same manner that you guys are wishing. If you really want good resale, buy an F car and be done with it.
Oh, and don't put any miles on it.
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Originally Posted by ebanzero
Well now that "the cat is out of the bag" so to speak, there will probably be more people trying to make a profit on the 08's. Back when the 07's were all sold, there wasn't all this hype surrounding the car. The enthusiasts all knew what the car was, but no one, including Porsche, thought it was going to be this crazy. That is why they only offered 270 cars. Now that the demand is skyrocketing they decided to offer more cars for 08, hoping to get some more cars into enthusiast's hands at MSRP, and of course make a profit for themselves. Unfortunately, this may back-fire, and just end up putting more cars out there for over list. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Many many people's HELOC ATM's are drying up. Remember what happened to the F40 for a long long time, as well as many other $$$$ cars in bad economic times?
About 20% of all jobs in the OC are real estate related. And CA, which is the biggest consumer of Porsches, is going to get it in the real estate market.
Anyone remember when brand new 993's sat on the lot for 6 to 8 months?
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Originally Posted by pcar964
I didn't realize people buying $100k+ cars were dipping into their home's equity to do so... doesn't make much sense to me??
well, it's their life.
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Originally Posted by stuka
They only imported 300 GT2's.
Of which probably 10% are total loss at this point.
No modern Porsche has any resale in the same manner that you guys are wishing. If you really want good resale, buy an F car and be done with it.
Oh, and don't put any miles on it.
Of which probably 10% are total loss at this point.
No modern Porsche has any resale in the same manner that you guys are wishing. If you really want good resale, buy an F car and be done with it.
Oh, and don't put any miles on it.
I agree totally about Ferrari have good resale numbers. Kudos to their management and marketing strategy.
But with all due respect, the GT3 RS is like no modern car Porsche has built. It definitely is in a different league than the 996 GT2, which was basically an overpriced turbo. If Porsche keeps the numbers low and doesn't bastardize it, the car will retain its value over the long run.
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I'm sorry but no modern production Porsche should be considered an investment. They will all depreciate.
Enjoy them for what they are. That is the best ROI you'll ever get.
...and yes I'm in the Real Estate field (custom construction actually).
Enjoy them for what they are. That is the best ROI you'll ever get.
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...and yes I'm in the Real Estate field (custom construction actually).
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Originally Posted by ebanzero
...with all due respect, the GT3 RS is like no modern car Porsche has built...the car will retain its value over the long run.
Originally Posted by pcar964
I didn't realize people buying $100k+ cars were dipping into their home's equity to do so... doesn't make much sense to me??