How Does VIN # Work?
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How does one read the VIN # to determine the production sequence? For example, the last 3 digits of my RS are 475...now is this only for the RS production, combo of RS and GT3, or all diff models rolling off the assembly line? Further, can one deduce ETA from the VIN???
Dang! Having seen pics of Darrell's white RS...just can't wait any longer
Dang! Having seen pics of Darrell's white RS...just can't wait any longer
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The North America Specification VIN covers the GT3 and GT3 RS the same, other than four characters (shown as blanks below) which together make the VIN unique to one car.
WP0AC299 _ 7S792 _ _ _
Actual 2007 GT3 Examples.
WP0AC29997S792267 is a GT3
WP0AC29987S792373 is a GT3 RS
WP0AC299 _ 7S792 _ _ _
Actual 2007 GT3 Examples.
WP0AC29997S792267 is a GT3
WP0AC29987S792373 is a GT3 RS
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Originally Posted by enthusiast
The North America Specification VIN covers the GT3 and GT3 RS the same other than four place holders.
WP0AC299 _ 7S792 _ _ _
Actual Examples.
WP0AC29997S792267 is a GT3
WP0AC29987S792373 is a GT3 RS
WP0AC299 _ 7S792 _ _ _
Actual Examples.
WP0AC29997S792267 is a GT3
WP0AC29987S792373 is a GT3 RS
This may sound like a dumb question, but do the Vin's increase one # at a time, sequentially
xxxx792123, next car 792124, then 125, etc?
(OT-I have a pending Shelby GT500 order, interestingly their VINs are NOT sequential. On Shelby's the latter VIN digits--whether low or high number per se-- give no indication as to which of two cars left the line first)
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Porsche AG has a range of sequential numbers for that spec, model year, and model of car. Logically speaking they could use every available number in the range but they do not have to.
I have observed that in general the VIN number sequence does relate chronologically to the assembly date but to what degree I do not know. The manufacture label on the car only lists month/year while the Porsche AG data bases contain actual day of the month.
All the 997 models, all specs including the race cars, are assembled on the same line in Zuffenhausen.
I have observed that in general the VIN number sequence does relate chronologically to the assembly date but to what degree I do not know. The manufacture label on the car only lists month/year while the Porsche AG data bases contain actual day of the month.
All the 997 models, all specs including the race cars, are assembled on the same line in Zuffenhausen.
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WP0AC29987S792373
What the numbers mean. Thanks to Scouser's PORSCHE 17 Digit VIN Decoder from Rentech.org
W
P
0
A
C
2
99
8
7
S
7
9
2373
What the numbers mean. Thanks to Scouser's PORSCHE 17 Digit VIN Decoder from Rentech.org
W
World Manufacturing Code:
The 1st character of the World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI)
which uniquely identifies the maker of the vehicle. It occupies
the first three characters of the Porsche VIN. The WMI is described
in ISO 3780.
The character 'W' is assigned to a West German vehicle manufacture
The 1st character of the World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI)
which uniquely identifies the maker of the vehicle. It occupies
the first three characters of the Porsche VIN. The WMI is described
in ISO 3780.
The character 'W' is assigned to a West German vehicle manufacture
Manufacturer:
The 2nd character of the World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI)
which uniquely identifies the maker of the vehicle. It occupies
the first three characters of the Porsche VIN. The WMI is described
in ISO 3780.
The character 'P' is assigned to the German manufacturer
Dr.Ing.h.c.F. Porsche Aktiengesellschaft 70432 Stuttgart
The 2nd character of the World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI)
which uniquely identifies the maker of the vehicle. It occupies
the first three characters of the Porsche VIN. The WMI is described
in ISO 3780.
The character 'P' is assigned to the German manufacturer
Dr.Ing.h.c.F. Porsche Aktiengesellschaft 70432 Stuttgart
Model Type:
The 3rd character of the World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI)
which uniquely identifies the maker of the vehicle. It occupies
the first three characters of the Porsche VIN. The WMI is described
in ISO 3780.
Porsche uses this character to describe its vehicle model type:
'0' (zero) for Sports Cars;
'1' (one) for SUVs
The 3rd character of the World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI)
which uniquely identifies the maker of the vehicle. It occupies
the first three characters of the Porsche VIN. The WMI is described
in ISO 3780.
Porsche uses this character to describe its vehicle model type:
'0' (zero) for Sports Cars;
'1' (one) for SUVs
USA/Canada Body Type:
The second section of the VIN consists of five characters (VIN character
positions 4-8) and are used to identify the attributes of the vehicle.
In the USA and Canada, Porsche uses the 4th character in the VIN
to describe the vehicle's body type such as Cabriolet, Targa, Coupe etc.
The second section of the VIN consists of five characters (VIN character
positions 4-8) and are used to identify the attributes of the vehicle.
In the USA and Canada, Porsche uses the 4th character in the VIN
to describe the vehicle's body type such as Cabriolet, Targa, Coupe etc.
USA/Canada Engine Type:
The second section of the VIN consists of five characters (VIN character
positions 4-8) and are used to identify the attributes of the vehicle.
In the USA and Canada, Porsche uses the 5th character in the VIN
to describe the vehicle's engine type such as Normally aspirated, Turbo etc.
The second section of the VIN consists of five characters (VIN character
positions 4-8) and are used to identify the attributes of the vehicle.
In the USA and Canada, Porsche uses the 5th character in the VIN
to describe the vehicle's engine type such as Normally aspirated, Turbo etc.
USA/Canada Restraint System:
The second section of the VIN consists of five characters (VIN character
positions 4-8) and are used to identify the attributes of the vehicle.
In the USA and Canada, Porsche uses the 6th character in the VIN
to describe the vehicle's restraint system such as airbag location etc.
The second section of the VIN consists of five characters (VIN character
positions 4-8) and are used to identify the attributes of the vehicle.
In the USA and Canada, Porsche uses the 6th character in the VIN
to describe the vehicle's restraint system such as airbag location etc.
Vehicle Type Designation:
The 7th and 8th character positions in the Porsche VIN are
the first two characters of the vehicle model. For example
for a 996 model 911, the vehicle type designation is '99' and
for a 987 model Boxster it is '98'. The 3rd character of the
vehicle type designation is found in the 12th character of the VIN
The 7th and 8th character positions in the Porsche VIN are
the first two characters of the vehicle model. For example
for a 996 model 911, the vehicle type designation is '99' and
for a 987 model Boxster it is '98'. The 3rd character of the
vehicle type designation is found in the 12th character of the VIN
USA/Canada Checksum Digit:
In the USA and Canada, the third section of the VIN consist of a
single character at position 9 in the VIN code, which is used as
a calculated check digit. This character may be numeric or the
letter 'X'. The check digit calculation is based on the other 16
character positions in the VIN. This is required to satisfy US and
Canada regulations and its purpose is to provide a means for verifying
the accuracy of the VIN. If the VIN is tampered with and the check
digit is not re-calculated, the VIN checksum will fail providing
indication that the vehicle is suspect.
In the USA and Canada, the third section of the VIN consist of a
single character at position 9 in the VIN code, which is used as
a calculated check digit. This character may be numeric or the
letter 'X'. The check digit calculation is based on the other 16
character positions in the VIN. This is required to satisfy US and
Canada regulations and its purpose is to provide a means for verifying
the accuracy of the VIN. If the VIN is tampered with and the check
digit is not re-calculated, the VIN checksum will fail providing
indication that the vehicle is suspect.
Manufacture Year:
The fourth section in the VIN consists of eight characters at
positions 10-17 in the VIN. The last five of which are numeric.
ISO 3779 refers to this section as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS)
The 10th character position in the VIN and the 1st in the VIS is
used to specify the manufacture year. The European Union does not
require that a year code is implemented although Porsche does use it.
In the USA and Canada however, the year code is compulsory. The year
codes start at 1971 and use characters 1 through 9 up to 1979. From
1980 onwards the characters start at A and continue to Y for year
2000. 2001 restarts again at 1 to 9 until 2009 and then A through Z is
for years 2019 onwards. Note that characters I, O, Q, U, and Z are
not used. Note also, that Porsche did not introduce the 17 digit VIN
code on their vehicles until 1980.
It is important to understand that the manufacture year is in fact the
year the vehicle was released from the factory and not necessarily the
actual year of manufacture. For example, a 997 model 911 assembled
in December of 2006 will likely show a manufacture year of 2007.
The fourth section in the VIN consists of eight characters at
positions 10-17 in the VIN. The last five of which are numeric.
ISO 3779 refers to this section as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS)
The 10th character position in the VIN and the 1st in the VIS is
used to specify the manufacture year. The European Union does not
require that a year code is implemented although Porsche does use it.
In the USA and Canada however, the year code is compulsory. The year
codes start at 1971 and use characters 1 through 9 up to 1979. From
1980 onwards the characters start at A and continue to Y for year
2000. 2001 restarts again at 1 to 9 until 2009 and then A through Z is
for years 2019 onwards. Note that characters I, O, Q, U, and Z are
not used. Note also, that Porsche did not introduce the 17 digit VIN
code on their vehicles until 1980.
It is important to understand that the manufacture year is in fact the
year the vehicle was released from the factory and not necessarily the
actual year of manufacture. For example, a 997 model 911 assembled
in December of 2006 will likely show a manufacture year of 2007.
Assembly Plant Location:
The fourth section in the VIN consists of eight characters at
positions 10-17 in the VIN. The last five of which are numeric.
ISO 3779 refers to this section as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS)
The 11th character position in the VIN and the 2nd in the VIS is
used to specify the Assembly Plant Location where the vehicle was
built. Note that the component parts of the vehicle may have been
manufactured and/or sourced from other locations. This VIN character
position only specifies where the components of the vehicle were
assembled into a completed vehicle.
Porsche has several manufacturing plants and the characters used for
the Assembly Plant Locations are defined as follows:
L = Leipzig
S = Stuttgart
N = Neckarsulm
U = Uusikaupunki (Finland)
The fourth section in the VIN consists of eight characters at
positions 10-17 in the VIN. The last five of which are numeric.
ISO 3779 refers to this section as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS)
The 11th character position in the VIN and the 2nd in the VIS is
used to specify the Assembly Plant Location where the vehicle was
built. Note that the component parts of the vehicle may have been
manufactured and/or sourced from other locations. This VIN character
position only specifies where the components of the vehicle were
assembled into a completed vehicle.
Porsche has several manufacturing plants and the characters used for
the Assembly Plant Locations are defined as follows:
L = Leipzig
S = Stuttgart
N = Neckarsulm
U = Uusikaupunki (Finland)
Vehicle Type Designation:
The fourth section in the VIN consists of eight characters at
positions 10-17 in the VIN. The last five of which are numeric.
ISO 3779 refers to this section as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS)
The 12th character position in the Porsche VIN is the final of
three characters making up the vehicle model. For example
for a 996 model 911, the vehicle type designation is '6' and
for a 987 model Boxster it is '8'. The 1st and 2nd characters of
the vehicle type designation are found in the 7th and 8th
character positions in the VIN
The fourth section in the VIN consists of eight characters at
positions 10-17 in the VIN. The last five of which are numeric.
ISO 3779 refers to this section as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS)
The 12th character position in the Porsche VIN is the final of
three characters making up the vehicle model. For example
for a 996 model 911, the vehicle type designation is '6' and
for a 987 model Boxster it is '8'. The 1st and 2nd characters of
the vehicle type designation are found in the 7th and 8th
character positions in the VIN
Body/Engine code:
The fourth section in the VIN consists of eight characters at
positions 10-17 in the VIN. The last five of which are numeric.
ISO 3779 refers to this section as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS)
Porsche uses the 13th character in the VIN to describe
the vehicle's body and/or engine type. The codes are too
numerous to describe here
The fourth section in the VIN consists of eight characters at
positions 10-17 in the VIN. The last five of which are numeric.
ISO 3779 refers to this section as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS)
Porsche uses the 13th character in the VIN to describe
the vehicle's body and/or engine type. The codes are too
numerous to describe here
Serial Number:
The fourth section in the VIN consists of eight characters at
positions 10-17 in the VIN. The last five of which are numeric.
ISO 3779 refers to this section as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS)
Porsche uses the last 4 characters in the VIN to describe
the vehicle's assembly sequence or chassis serial number.
The fourth section in the VIN consists of eight characters at
positions 10-17 in the VIN. The last five of which are numeric.
ISO 3779 refers to this section as the Vehicle Identifier Section (VIS)
Porsche uses the last 4 characters in the VIN to describe
the vehicle's assembly sequence or chassis serial number.
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MJones - thanks for the info. Now I'll be seeking your assistance in tracking my RS' journey across the ocean in a few days. VIN ending in 2475. Thanks...
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Originally Posted by BobbyC
MJones - thanks for the info. Now I'll be seeking your assistance in tracking my RS' journey across the ocean in a few days. VIN ending in 2475. Thanks...
You hope, mine is 2366 and it has been sitting in Zufenhausen since 1/10.07 - can't find out why.
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Originally Posted by supercup
You hope, mine is 2366 and it has been sitting in Zufenhausen since 1/10.07 - can't find out why.
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Go to your dealers office, pound your fists on his desk, and refuse to leave until he makes a few phone calls and finds out WTF is going on!!! ![Cheers](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/beerchug.gif)
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Could be one of my exclusive options. Who knows, but I hope your car gets delivered ASAP.
I have noticed all cars noted on board to date are East Coast, I am West Coast. There was one member (N. Calif.) who posted his car was on the boat a few weeks back, but I have not seen a post surface from him that his car has arrived.
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Looking at the posts above, and now looking at a few VINs for the RS, it appears that the proper digit/number for the RS is not the ninth "9" in sequence, but rather the thirteenth "9" -- therefore, using the examples above:
WP0AC29957S7_ 2 _ _ _
where,
WP0AC29997S782267 is a GT3
WP0AC29987S792373 is a GT3 RS
WP0AC29957S7_ 2 _ _ _
where,
WP0AC29997S782267 is a GT3
WP0AC29987S792373 is a GT3 RS
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Originally Posted by zellamsee
Looking at the posts above, and now looking at a few VINs for the RS, it appears that the proper digit/number for the RS is not the ninth "9" in sequence, but rather the thirteenth "9" -- therefore, using the examples above:
WP0AC29957S7_ 2 _ _ _
where,
WP0AC29997S782267 is a GT3
WP0AC29987S792373 is a GT3 RS
WP0AC29957S7_ 2 _ _ _
where,
WP0AC29997S782267 is a GT3
WP0AC29987S792373 is a GT3 RS
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Me too -- following the Codes that MJones posted above, it would seem that the 13th character describes the model type ("Porsche uses the 13th character in the VIN to describe
the vehicle's body and/or engine type."), whereas the 9th character is a check digit. But perhaps this is incorrect?
the vehicle's body and/or engine type."), whereas the 9th character is a check digit. But perhaps this is incorrect?
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A more compact version, just in case it helps...........................................
How to read vehicle identification stickers
VIN NUMBER EXPLAINED here is an example of a VIN number and the information it holds using the number.................
WPOZZZ99ZVS681234....
position numbers - 1 2 3 - 4 5 6 - 7 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 15 16 17
example of the Vin- WPO - ZZZ - 99 - Z - V - S - 6 - 8 - 1234
1/2/3 = world manufacture code W=Germany PO= Porsche
4/5/6 = (ZZZ) fill-in digits, or in USA =VSD code (First letter = body type, e.g. A= Coupe C = Cabriolet/ Second= engine -
transmission, e.g. A= 2WD B=4WD/ third = occupant safety system type e.g. 0=seat belts, 1=driver airbag, 2= driver/passenger airbags.
7/8 = first & second digits of the model code (99)
9 = (Z) fill-in digit (or in US usually left blank_)
10 = Model Year (V =1997, W=1998, X=1999,Y=2000,1=2001,2=2002,3=2003,4=2004)
11 = Production Plant (S= Stuttgart, N= Neckalsalm,U= Uusikaupunki)
12 = 3rd digit of model number (6, giving us a total model number of 996)
13 = body or engine type
14/15/16/17 = sequential numbers (can be repeated on other MY or model chassis number).
How to read vehicle identification stickers
VIN NUMBER EXPLAINED here is an example of a VIN number and the information it holds using the number.................
WPOZZZ99ZVS681234....
position numbers - 1 2 3 - 4 5 6 - 7 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 15 16 17
example of the Vin- WPO - ZZZ - 99 - Z - V - S - 6 - 8 - 1234
1/2/3 = world manufacture code W=Germany PO= Porsche
4/5/6 = (ZZZ) fill-in digits, or in USA =VSD code (First letter = body type, e.g. A= Coupe C = Cabriolet/ Second= engine -
transmission, e.g. A= 2WD B=4WD/ third = occupant safety system type e.g. 0=seat belts, 1=driver airbag, 2= driver/passenger airbags.
7/8 = first & second digits of the model code (99)
9 = (Z) fill-in digit (or in US usually left blank_)
10 = Model Year (V =1997, W=1998, X=1999,Y=2000,1=2001,2=2002,3=2003,4=2004)
11 = Production Plant (S= Stuttgart, N= Neckalsalm,U= Uusikaupunki)
12 = 3rd digit of model number (6, giving us a total model number of 996)
13 = body or engine type
14/15/16/17 = sequential numbers (can be repeated on other MY or model chassis number).