Mike J

Perhaps, but if I had the choice, and I have, I would take the zero over rev car any day. A PPI will not detect stretched rod bolts for instance. I think level 1 is OK, level 2 is worrying, and any from level 3 above is a walk for me. This is all about risk assessment, everyone differs, so your tolerance for risk is higher than many buyers, so good for you. Most Porsche dealers would hesitate on level 3 over-revs for a trade-in for instance, and getting them to warrant that car would be difficult.

Robocop305

I know of a 2008 GT3 with 0 overrevs and he had a spun rod bearing. I also know quite a few GT3s and Turbos running around with overrevs in ranges over 4 and 5s and are running perfectly with excellent compression. I have also seeing false DME reporting. I have done a diagnostic with a Durametric Pro where we took a 997 Turbo to just under redline and it recorded level 1 and 2 overrevs.

Mike J

Sure, there are always outliers and exceptions. My argument is that a car with zero over revs is on the average a better choice than ones in the 3+ category. You can always find exceptions, but you can also find major engine issues with over revved cars - not called the money shift for nothing. This is a futile discussion anyways, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so this closes this topic for me.

Robocop305

All good. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I used to think like you and I passed on a few mechanically perfect cars. Now, I look at the entire picture and get a good inspection to help with my decision making. So far so good.

RAudi Driver

you could get a car with no overrevs where the owner lugged the car everywhere. I would hate to have a car that's been driven at low rpm's.

Mike J

Sorry could not leave this one hanging - you can also get a car with over revs that has been lugged everywhere and the owner decided one time to goose it and missed a downshift - there is zero correlation between "lugging" and over revs. I have a friend who put over 30,000 miles on his 997.2 GT3 RS, he never lugged it, drove the car full RPM range often, the car was purchased with zero over revs and sold with zero. Easy sell because of that. The point is no one really knows how the car has been driven other then two key metrics from the DME and a mechanical inspection - the over rev count, and the average speed (miles on the engine/hrs on the engine) gives some data, and additional information is gained by compression/leak-down tests, plug condition, exhaust pipe color, boroscoping the cylinders, oil analysis and all that goes into a go/no-go decision. The go/no-go depends on the purchasers tolerance for risk. My experience is a clean no-over rev car is an easier sell than a car with over revs, especially level 3 and up.

Robocop305

It’s funny that Porsche buyers are the only ones that care about overrevs. Do you ask for overrevs reports on a Mercedes Benz, BMW etc? The overrevs report was created by Porsche to have an excuse to deny a warranty claim whenever they didn’t want to pay for damages. The damage could have been cause by faulty parts, etc but they will try to blame the driver with the DME report. Typical car manufacturers strategies.

RAudi Driver

You missed the point.

Mike J

Nope don't think so - please elaborate.

RAudi Driver

Stand by your word and I actually stand by your word also.