The carbon fiber trim headache on my 2007 GT3 RS
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The carbon fiber trim headache on my 2007 GT3 RS
Hey gang, it’s been a while. I’m the guy who bought the low mileage RS (Black with orange accents) from Marshall Goldman a while back. At that point it had 4,500 miles. It now has 8,500. Been enjoying it when I’m in town (I split my time between Los Angeles and New Orleans), and it’s been mechanically bombproof. But, all at once I started noticing the carbon fiber trim inside begin to warp, peel, and the center piece (next to the e-brake) recently just cracked on its own. I’ve reached out to a few folks I was hoping might have some insight, as I know this is a fairly common issue, but no one has had any luck suggesting someone who could repair/replace this pieces. It’s really a bummer because the car is in fantastic condition, has so few miles, but then has this ****ty stuff going on with the interior. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks!! 🙏
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The factory carbon center console will warp and crack. It's a matter of when, not if. I've had them replaced 3 times on 2 different 997s, twice under warranty. If you notice it early on you can try glueing which will extend the life of it a little, but it's a band aid and only prolongs the inevitable. If the car sits in the heat, the console will crack.
There are aftermarket carbon manufacturers, I tired a couple - one from Taiwan and one from Germany, the quality of the work was sub par on both and I returned them.
I finally gave up on carbon, found a $150 used console, had it painted body color and no longer have to deal with the crappy OEM console or worry about parking the car in the sun.
There are aftermarket carbon manufacturers, I tired a couple - one from Taiwan and one from Germany, the quality of the work was sub par on both and I returned them.
I finally gave up on carbon, found a $150 used console, had it painted body color and no longer have to deal with the crappy OEM console or worry about parking the car in the sun.
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I had similar issue with mine and had a friend re glue the pieces together. On mine. Cigarette lighter cover, sides near the rear and the cup holder peeled off. But no cracking.
Then I got 2011 Black and it had leather console. Im so happy it did. No more worrying. If you can’t glue the pieces, get a new piece and either paint or leather wrap it.
Then I got 2011 Black and it had leather console. Im so happy it did. No more worrying. If you can’t glue the pieces, get a new piece and either paint or leather wrap it.
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The factory carbon center console will warp and crack. It's a matter of when, not if. I've had them replaced 3 times on 2 different 997s, twice under warranty. If you notice it early on you can try glueing which will extend the life of it a little, but it's a band aid and only prolongs the inevitable. If the car sits in the heat, the console will crack.
There are aftermarket carbon manufacturers, I tired a couple - one from Taiwan and one from Germany, the quality of the work was sub par on both and I returned them.
I finally gave up on carbon, found a $150 used console, had it painted body color and no longer have to deal with the crappy OEM console or worry about parking the car in the sun.
There are aftermarket carbon manufacturers, I tired a couple - one from Taiwan and one from Germany, the quality of the work was sub par on both and I returned them.
I finally gave up on carbon, found a $150 used console, had it painted body color and no longer have to deal with the crappy OEM console or worry about parking the car in the sun.
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I had similar issue with mine and had a friend re glue the pieces together. On mine. Cigarette lighter cover, sides near the rear and the cup holder peeled off. But no cracking.
Then I got 2011 Black and it had leather console. Im so happy it did. No more worrying. If you can’t glue the pieces, get a new piece and either paint or leather wrap it.
Then I got 2011 Black and it had leather console. Im so happy it did. No more worrying. If you can’t glue the pieces, get a new piece and either paint or leather wrap it.
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Burning Brakes
Look into DB Carbon's replacement parts. I have many of their carbon parts in my GT3 and the quality is far superior to the OEM carbon Porsche used in the 997 generation cars. It always seems to yellow, crack, or delaminate over time. The DB Carbon parts are perfect and are an extact match to OEM.
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Look into DB Carbon's replacement parts. I have many of their carbon parts in my GT3 and the quality is far superior to the OEM carbon Porsche used in the 997 generation cars. It always seems to yellow, crack, or delaminate over time. The DB Carbon parts are perfect and are an extact match to OEM.
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What sucks is that .2 RS’s (3.8 and 4.0) came standard with the carbon fiber trim such as the cup holders and very few people optioned these pieces for a different material. Is the warping, cracking, or delaminating common for the exposed carbon wing or door sills?
Last edited by RapidGT; 04-06-2021 at 06:10 PM.
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yep, same issue here in the massive center console CF trim. Cost to replace was ~5K. Had CPO take care of it! I basically don't touch the center console anymore lol
supposedly, the "upgraded" factory CF trim is better than the 2010/2011 CF....I was told this but it looks exactly the same to me so who knows
supposedly, the "upgraded" factory CF trim is better than the 2010/2011 CF....I was told this but it looks exactly the same to me so who knows
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I have had OE Porsche cupholder trim and dashboard/defogger trim on order since September. This just reminded me to call PNH and check where it is (and they're digging, so that's not encouraging).
Long story short, Porsche has replaced OE supplier, which is the reason for the backorder.
Unclear if it was a quality issue or not.
That said, whenever it shows up, it's coming from the new supplier, so will see how well it matches and long term durable.
Long story short, Porsche has replaced OE supplier, which is the reason for the backorder.
Unclear if it was a quality issue or not.
That said, whenever it shows up, it's coming from the new supplier, so will see how well it matches and long term durable.
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This sounds highly discouraging. Lol. I take it there’s no way to get replacement CF interior trim from Porsche? And even if I did replace the console with a non-CF piece, there’s a ton more all over the interior. This is highly depressing. I rarely have the car in the sun, but can’t prevent it at all times of course. And of course, I can’t stop obsessively looking at all the imperfections. 🤪
What other trim pieces are delaminating? I have a ton of CF all over the interior and everything other than the console is still perfect.
Look into DB Carbon's replacement parts. I have many of their carbon parts in my GT3 and the quality is far superior to the OEM carbon Porsche used in the 997 generation cars. It always seems to yellow, crack, or delaminate over time. The DB Carbon parts are perfect and are an extact match to OEM.
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You can buy the OEM piece again, but it's just a matter of time...
What other trim pieces are delaminating? I have a ton of CF all over the interior and everything other than the console is still perfect.
That's the German manufacturer I used for replacement. Ended up returning it after he fought me tooth & nail...
What other trim pieces are delaminating? I have a ton of CF all over the interior and everything other than the console is still perfect.
That's the German manufacturer I used for replacement. Ended up returning it after he fought me tooth & nail...
Regarding the peeling carbon, I've seen the carbon/leather defrost trim peel and warp. Have seen the cupholders and center console have issues too. I'd expect to replace it either with aftermarket carbon, leather, or painted.
The OEM pieces from Porsche are cost prohibitive.