Check engine from subpar fuel?
#16
Rennlist Member
I disconnected the battery last night, remember reading that's a way to reset the ECU. Maybe it's not fuel related. I connected the Durametric cable(enthusiast) and there were no codes but I did a clear all fault codes anyway.
I suppose if I had an O2 sensor problem I would have gotten a fault code. I don't think I've had misfires, and the enthusiast cable is probably limited compared to the Pro. I tried looking at actual values on the modules and while I can see some, I still don't know what I'm missing with the enthusiast cable and have been planning on getting the Piwis 3 clone or Launch Tech X431 Torque. They're not cheap but just a bit more than the Durametric Pro.
I'm due for ignition coils and will replace them hopefully this week-
I suppose if I had an O2 sensor problem I would have gotten a fault code. I don't think I've had misfires, and the enthusiast cable is probably limited compared to the Pro. I tried looking at actual values on the modules and while I can see some, I still don't know what I'm missing with the enthusiast cable and have been planning on getting the Piwis 3 clone or Launch Tech X431 Torque. They're not cheap but just a bit more than the Durametric Pro.
I'm due for ignition coils and will replace them hopefully this week-
#17
Rennlist Member
So I drove quite a bit, added Chevron and the issue disappeared. Took a good drive his morning and a blast just now, no issues. I did disconnect the battery yesterday to see if it would help, but who knows. As far as gas goes, I usually favor Chevron and Mobil, but the list of top tier gas is pretty big. I also use Shell, depends on location and price, they're usually more expensive but I do recall a bad batch that made the news with cars that got damaged. I don't recall exactly what, maybe sulfur contamination or something. But this time I used Marathon, and it's top tier and perhaps the largest refiner-
https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/
So I wonder if a station can mess up and mix up gas in the tanks/pumps and 87 octane got in there???
https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/
So I wonder if a station can mess up and mix up gas in the tanks/pumps and 87 octane got in there???
#18
Pro
Thread Starter
So I drove quite a bit, added Chevron and the issue disappeared. Took a good drive his morning and a blast just now, no issues. I did disconnect the battery yesterday to see if it would help, but who knows. As far as gas goes, I usually favor Chevron and Mobil, but the list of top tier gas is pretty big. I also use Shell, depends on location and price, they're usually more expensive but I do recall a bad batch that made the news with cars that got damaged. I don't recall exactly what, maybe sulfur contamination or something. But this time I used Marathon, and it's top tier and perhaps the largest refiner-
https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/
So I wonder if a station can mess up and mix up gas in the tanks/pumps and 87 octane got in there???
https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/
So I wonder if a station can mess up and mix up gas in the tanks/pumps and 87 octane got in there???
#19
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#20
Rennlist Member
Plan is to either get Piwis 3 or Launch Tech USA X431 Torque. Durametric enthusiast will be sold or I'll give it to a fried to reset oil/service interval
For my Audi I have Obdeleven on a tablet. It does maintenance, shows codes, you can code the car, etc. Very affordable but nothing of the sort available for Porsche.
For my Audi I have Obdeleven on a tablet. It does maintenance, shows codes, you can code the car, etc. Very affordable but nothing of the sort available for Porsche.
#21
Rennlist Member
Continued my tour of gas stations and went to Shell today to top off. I definitely think the Marathon switched gas in the pumps and I ended up with 87 or 89 octane mixed. I sure feel like dropping a few gallons of Sunoco 260 GT in the tank, though NA engines don't really benefit that much from 100 octane-
#22
Rennlist Member
So I did not have bad fuel, and others might have what I just diagnosed on my car. I had a CEL because my car was taking too long to warm up due to a dead control-valve, next to the disc valve on the transmission.
Durametric did not detect a fault code.
Details on a new thread I made:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...isc-valve.html
Durametric did not detect a fault code.
Details on a new thread I made:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...isc-valve.html
Last edited by JB911; 03-02-2021 at 07:36 PM.
#23
Plan is to either get Piwis 3 or Launch Tech USA X431 Torque. Durametric enthusiast will be sold or I'll give it to a fried to reset oil/service interval
For my Audi I have Obdeleven on a tablet. It does maintenance, shows codes, you can code the car, etc. Very affordable but nothing of the sort available for Porsche.
For my Audi I have Obdeleven on a tablet. It does maintenance, shows codes, you can code the car, etc. Very affordable but nothing of the sort available for Porsche.
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#24
Rennlist Member
The PIWIS clone complete laptop is being widely used, check out the threads on rennlist.
I made a list of vendors and they are going down in price, around $1099 complete.
Here's the post from the thread. There is also a dedicated PIWIS thread if you search-Durametric Pro is also not worth the money compared to X431 Torque or PIWIS III:
I've been posting on multiple Piwis threads, and made a list of current vendors and prices. At least one says to email for best price, which is a good idea-
Some might be the same vendor with different websites. Laptops seem to be Panasonic(more expensive)Lenovo Yoga, T440 and T450. Ram varies from 4 to 8GB, and all seem to be I5 CPU, touchscreen, and 2 versions of Piwis software included. Most require sending in SSD for updating, the more expensive ones can be updated online. The newer ones seem to use the PT3G VCI. I'm still trying to find more info and options(windows 7, 8, 10, XP)
It's taken quite some time reading but I see some posters went ahead and bought their systems and seem to be satisfied with vendor and option.
From obdcartool.com, free shipping,
Lenovo T440
$1159.89
https://www.obd2cartool.com/porsche-...-to-use-p-1675
Lenovo Yoga
$1299:
https://www.obd2cartool.com/porsche-...13ijlbcmlv2911
From uobdii.com, free shipping:
$1199
https://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/por...-software.html
$1599, Panasonic CF-MX3 laptop, "Free Update Online. There will be usb key in package for you to update online when new version release. No Need to Return SSD back"
https://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/por...al-driver.html
From vxdas.com, Lenovo Yoga:
$1319 plus shipping:
https://www.vxdas.com/products/oem-p...96b314fb&_ss=r
$1599 plus shipping, Piwis III for Porsche with V39.500.025 Piwis Software SSD Installed on Panasonic CF-MX3 Laptop Windows 8, Update Online with USB Dongle (SP44-1):
https://www.vxdas.com/products/piwis...32431552135250
$1399, this one has the different VCI. Does anyone know the details and difference? It says:
From autonumen.com, free shipping on some kits, not all(?) Lenovo T450:
$1195
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7119...50-Laptop.html
$1324 Lenovo Yoga S1, but not free shipping:
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7050...12-Laptop.html
$1138 Lenovo T440,V39.900 + V39.700 Software, free shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7127...dy-To-Use.html
$1480, Panasonic CF-MX3, plus shipping:
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7125...X3-Laptop.html
$1481 with Dell E7450 laptop, not sure if it's touchscreen, +shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-6920...X3-Laptop.html
$1188, VXDIAG VCI, Lenovo T440P, free shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-6826...0P-Laptop.html
From obd360.com
Panasonic CF-MX3, free shipping
$1599:
https://www.obd360.com/wholesale/por...r-piwis-3.html
Lenovo T440
$1179:
https://www.obd360.com/wholesale/por...dy-to-use.html
From vxdiagshop.com
Panasonic CF-MX3, Update: Free Update via U disk, connect U disk to laptop, reboot laptop, enter update page, then contact us. No need return laptop.
$1599, free shipping:
https://www.vxdiagshop.com/wholesale...stic-tool.html
Lenovo T440, Windows 8, 500GB drive, 4GB Ram
$1199, Free shipping:
https://www.vxdiagshop.com/wholesale...with-t440.html
From obd365.com
Lenovo T440, 500GB drive
$1199, free shipping
https://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/p...-with-ssd.html
From hobdII.com. This vendor also says "Get Best Price Please Contact: sales@hobdii.com"
Panasonic CF-MX3, Free Update via U disk, connect U disk to laptop, reboot laptop, enter update page, then contact us. No need return laptop:
$1487
https://www.hobdii.com/wholesale/por...al-driver.html
Lenovo T440
$1115
https://www.hobdii.com/wholesale/vxd...novo-t440.html
I posted on this and other PIWIS threads:
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...ussion-64.html
I made a list of vendors and they are going down in price, around $1099 complete.
Here's the post from the thread. There is also a dedicated PIWIS thread if you search-Durametric Pro is also not worth the money compared to X431 Torque or PIWIS III:
I've been posting on multiple Piwis threads, and made a list of current vendors and prices. At least one says to email for best price, which is a good idea-
Some might be the same vendor with different websites. Laptops seem to be Panasonic(more expensive)Lenovo Yoga, T440 and T450. Ram varies from 4 to 8GB, and all seem to be I5 CPU, touchscreen, and 2 versions of Piwis software included. Most require sending in SSD for updating, the more expensive ones can be updated online. The newer ones seem to use the PT3G VCI. I'm still trying to find more info and options(windows 7, 8, 10, XP)
It's taken quite some time reading but I see some posters went ahead and bought their systems and seem to be satisfied with vendor and option.
From obdcartool.com, free shipping,
Lenovo T440
$1159.89
https://www.obd2cartool.com/porsche-...-to-use-p-1675
Lenovo Yoga
$1299:
https://www.obd2cartool.com/porsche-...13ijlbcmlv2911
From uobdii.com, free shipping:
$1199
https://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/por...-software.html
$1599, Panasonic CF-MX3 laptop, "Free Update Online. There will be usb key in package for you to update online when new version release. No Need to Return SSD back"
https://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/por...al-driver.html
From vxdas.com, Lenovo Yoga:
$1319 plus shipping:
https://www.vxdas.com/products/oem-p...96b314fb&_ss=r
$1599 plus shipping, Piwis III for Porsche with V39.500.025 Piwis Software SSD Installed on Panasonic CF-MX3 Laptop Windows 8, Update Online with USB Dongle (SP44-1):
https://www.vxdas.com/products/piwis...32431552135250
$1399, this one has the different VCI. Does anyone know the details and difference? It says:
- New VCX-DoIP J2534 Piwis 3 Interface diagnostic technique based on Ethereum
- VCX-DoIP J2534 Piws 3 Diagnosis Tool for luxury vehicles but without lots of requirements:
From autonumen.com, free shipping on some kits, not all(?) Lenovo T450:
$1195
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7119...50-Laptop.html
$1324 Lenovo Yoga S1, but not free shipping:
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7050...12-Laptop.html
$1138 Lenovo T440,V39.900 + V39.700 Software, free shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7127...dy-To-Use.html
$1480, Panasonic CF-MX3, plus shipping:
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7125...X3-Laptop.html
$1481 with Dell E7450 laptop, not sure if it's touchscreen, +shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-6920...X3-Laptop.html
$1188, VXDIAG VCI, Lenovo T440P, free shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-6826...0P-Laptop.html
From obd360.com
Panasonic CF-MX3, free shipping
$1599:
https://www.obd360.com/wholesale/por...r-piwis-3.html
Lenovo T440
$1179:
https://www.obd360.com/wholesale/por...dy-to-use.html
From vxdiagshop.com
Panasonic CF-MX3, Update: Free Update via U disk, connect U disk to laptop, reboot laptop, enter update page, then contact us. No need return laptop.
$1599, free shipping:
https://www.vxdiagshop.com/wholesale...stic-tool.html
Lenovo T440, Windows 8, 500GB drive, 4GB Ram
$1199, Free shipping:
https://www.vxdiagshop.com/wholesale...with-t440.html
From obd365.com
Lenovo T440, 500GB drive
$1199, free shipping
https://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/p...-with-ssd.html
From hobdII.com. This vendor also says "Get Best Price Please Contact: sales@hobdii.com"
Panasonic CF-MX3, Free Update via U disk, connect U disk to laptop, reboot laptop, enter update page, then contact us. No need return laptop:
$1487
https://www.hobdii.com/wholesale/por...al-driver.html
Lenovo T440
$1115
https://www.hobdii.com/wholesale/vxd...novo-t440.html
I posted on this and other PIWIS threads:
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...ussion-64.html
#25
Rennlist Member
And here's another thread. So what's been happening is some people that bought the laptops before January 2021 now have to reset the laptop date because it won't work set to 2021
So I'm observing which vendors guarantee there is no 2021 date issues before buying
https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera...piwis-iii.html
So I'm observing which vendors guarantee there is no 2021 date issues before buying
https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera...piwis-iii.html
#26
The PIWIS clone complete laptop is being widely used, check out the threads on rennlist.
I made a list of vendors and they are going down in price, around $1099 complete.
Here's the post from the thread. There is also a dedicated PIWIS thread if you search-Durametric Pro is also not worth the money compared to X431 Torque or PIWIS III:
I've been posting on multiple Piwis threads, and made a list of current vendors and prices. At least one says to email for best price, which is a good idea-
Some might be the same vendor with different websites. Laptops seem to be Panasonic(more expensive)Lenovo Yoga, T440 and T450. Ram varies from 4 to 8GB, and all seem to be I5 CPU, touchscreen, and 2 versions of Piwis software included. Most require sending in SSD for updating, the more expensive ones can be updated online. The newer ones seem to use the PT3G VCI. I'm still trying to find more info and options(windows 7, 8, 10, XP)
It's taken quite some time reading but I see some posters went ahead and bought their systems and seem to be satisfied with vendor and option.
From obdcartool.com, free shipping,
Lenovo T440
$1159.89
https://www.obd2cartool.com/porsche-...-to-use-p-1675
Lenovo Yoga
$1299:
https://www.obd2cartool.com/porsche-...13ijlbcmlv2911
From uobdii.com, free shipping:
$1199
https://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/por...-software.html
$1599, Panasonic CF-MX3 laptop, "Free Update Online. There will be usb key in package for you to update online when new version release. No Need to Return SSD back"
https://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/por...al-driver.html
From vxdas.com, Lenovo Yoga:
$1319 plus shipping:
https://www.vxdas.com/products/oem-p...96b314fb&_ss=r
$1599 plus shipping, Piwis III for Porsche with V39.500.025 Piwis Software SSD Installed on Panasonic CF-MX3 Laptop Windows 8, Update Online with USB Dongle (SP44-1):
https://www.vxdas.com/products/piwis...32431552135250
$1399, this one has the different VCI. Does anyone know the details and difference? It says:
From autonumen.com, free shipping on some kits, not all(?) Lenovo T450:
$1195
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7119...50-Laptop.html
$1324 Lenovo Yoga S1, but not free shipping:
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7050...12-Laptop.html
$1138 Lenovo T440,V39.900 + V39.700 Software, free shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7127...dy-To-Use.html
$1480, Panasonic CF-MX3, plus shipping:
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7125...X3-Laptop.html
$1481 with Dell E7450 laptop, not sure if it's touchscreen, +shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-6920...X3-Laptop.html
$1188, VXDIAG VCI, Lenovo T440P, free shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-6826...0P-Laptop.html
From obd360.com
Panasonic CF-MX3, free shipping
$1599:
https://www.obd360.com/wholesale/por...r-piwis-3.html
Lenovo T440
$1179:
https://www.obd360.com/wholesale/por...dy-to-use.html
From vxdiagshop.com
Panasonic CF-MX3, Update: Free Update via U disk, connect U disk to laptop, reboot laptop, enter update page, then contact us. No need return laptop.
$1599, free shipping:
https://www.vxdiagshop.com/wholesale...stic-tool.html
Lenovo T440, Windows 8, 500GB drive, 4GB Ram
$1199, Free shipping:
https://www.vxdiagshop.com/wholesale...with-t440.html
From obd365.com
Lenovo T440, 500GB drive
$1199, free shipping
https://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/p...-with-ssd.html
From hobdII.com. This vendor also says "Get Best Price Please Contact: sales@hobdii.com"
Panasonic CF-MX3, Free Update via U disk, connect U disk to laptop, reboot laptop, enter update page, then contact us. No need return laptop:
$1487
https://www.hobdii.com/wholesale/por...al-driver.html
Lenovo T440
$1115
https://www.hobdii.com/wholesale/vxd...novo-t440.html
I posted on this and other PIWIS threads:
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...ussion-64.html
I made a list of vendors and they are going down in price, around $1099 complete.
Here's the post from the thread. There is also a dedicated PIWIS thread if you search-Durametric Pro is also not worth the money compared to X431 Torque or PIWIS III:
I've been posting on multiple Piwis threads, and made a list of current vendors and prices. At least one says to email for best price, which is a good idea-
Some might be the same vendor with different websites. Laptops seem to be Panasonic(more expensive)Lenovo Yoga, T440 and T450. Ram varies from 4 to 8GB, and all seem to be I5 CPU, touchscreen, and 2 versions of Piwis software included. Most require sending in SSD for updating, the more expensive ones can be updated online. The newer ones seem to use the PT3G VCI. I'm still trying to find more info and options(windows 7, 8, 10, XP)
It's taken quite some time reading but I see some posters went ahead and bought their systems and seem to be satisfied with vendor and option.
From obdcartool.com, free shipping,
Lenovo T440
$1159.89
https://www.obd2cartool.com/porsche-...-to-use-p-1675
Lenovo Yoga
$1299:
https://www.obd2cartool.com/porsche-...13ijlbcmlv2911
From uobdii.com, free shipping:
$1199
https://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/por...-software.html
$1599, Panasonic CF-MX3 laptop, "Free Update Online. There will be usb key in package for you to update online when new version release. No Need to Return SSD back"
https://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/por...al-driver.html
From vxdas.com, Lenovo Yoga:
$1319 plus shipping:
https://www.vxdas.com/products/oem-p...96b314fb&_ss=r
$1599 plus shipping, Piwis III for Porsche with V39.500.025 Piwis Software SSD Installed on Panasonic CF-MX3 Laptop Windows 8, Update Online with USB Dongle (SP44-1):
https://www.vxdas.com/products/piwis...32431552135250
$1399, this one has the different VCI. Does anyone know the details and difference? It says:
- New VCX-DoIP J2534 Piwis 3 Interface diagnostic technique based on Ethereum
- VCX-DoIP J2534 Piws 3 Diagnosis Tool for luxury vehicles but without lots of requirements:
From autonumen.com, free shipping on some kits, not all(?) Lenovo T450:
$1195
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7119...50-Laptop.html
$1324 Lenovo Yoga S1, but not free shipping:
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7050...12-Laptop.html
$1138 Lenovo T440,V39.900 + V39.700 Software, free shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7127...dy-To-Use.html
$1480, Panasonic CF-MX3, plus shipping:
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-7125...X3-Laptop.html
$1481 with Dell E7450 laptop, not sure if it's touchscreen, +shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-6920...X3-Laptop.html
$1188, VXDIAG VCI, Lenovo T440P, free shipping
https://www.autonumen.com/goods-6826...0P-Laptop.html
From obd360.com
Panasonic CF-MX3, free shipping
$1599:
https://www.obd360.com/wholesale/por...r-piwis-3.html
Lenovo T440
$1179:
https://www.obd360.com/wholesale/por...dy-to-use.html
From vxdiagshop.com
Panasonic CF-MX3, Update: Free Update via U disk, connect U disk to laptop, reboot laptop, enter update page, then contact us. No need return laptop.
$1599, free shipping:
https://www.vxdiagshop.com/wholesale...stic-tool.html
Lenovo T440, Windows 8, 500GB drive, 4GB Ram
$1199, Free shipping:
https://www.vxdiagshop.com/wholesale...with-t440.html
From obd365.com
Lenovo T440, 500GB drive
$1199, free shipping
https://www.obdii365.com/wholesale/p...-with-ssd.html
From hobdII.com. This vendor also says "Get Best Price Please Contact: sales@hobdii.com"
Panasonic CF-MX3, Free Update via U disk, connect U disk to laptop, reboot laptop, enter update page, then contact us. No need return laptop:
$1487
https://www.hobdii.com/wholesale/por...al-driver.html
Lenovo T440
$1115
https://www.hobdii.com/wholesale/vxd...novo-t440.html
I posted on this and other PIWIS threads:
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...ussion-64.html
And here's another thread. So what's been happening is some people that bought the laptops before January 2021 now have to reset the laptop date because it won't work set to 2021
So I'm observing which vendors guarantee there is no 2021 date issues before buying
https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera...piwis-iii.html
So I'm observing which vendors guarantee there is no 2021 date issues before buying
https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera...piwis-iii.html