Notices
997 Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

PDK problems require full replacement

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 15, 2017 | 06:40 AM
  #196  
iflat6's Avatar
iflat6
Track Day
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: Paris
Default

Originally Posted by ehandschuh
Got my car back, still not fixed. With the wedding and a 3 week honeymoon coming up in 33 days, looks like I won't be getting it fixed until October.

In the meantime my fiance lucks out and get to drive my Pcar around town since it is good for up to 40 minutes.

She showed up to my place this am and I walk out and saw it in front of my door. Hurt having to walk past it!
also did they try a recalibration? Worth launching it...cannot hurt.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 10:15 AM
  #197  
ehandschuh's Avatar
ehandschuh
Intermediate
 
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 46
Likes: 1
From: Philadelphia, PA
Default

Originally Posted by iflat6
also did they try a recalibration? Worth launching it...cannot hurt.
They have recalibrated the TCU about 5 times at this point - even tried a new TCU which produced the same error code/symptoms.

Launching it? I guess I could do launch control, but I don't think it would fix (or hurt) anything.

As for the internal part, I have been searching for anyone that can open the box and fix it, but it's proving to be impossible.

Next step is sending Porsche a letter from a lawyer.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 10:39 AM
  #198  
iflat6's Avatar
iflat6
Track Day
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: Paris
Default

Are they 100% sure it’s distance sensor? I know that they may claim that’s internal but my experience prove me they have close to zero knowledge on diagnosing the PDK hence my question.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 11:34 AM
  #199  
ehandschuh's Avatar
ehandschuh
Intermediate
 
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 46
Likes: 1
From: Philadelphia, PA
Default

Originally Posted by iflat6
Are they 100% sure it’s distance sensor? I know that they may claim that’s internal but my experience prove me they have close to zero knowledge on diagnosing the PDK hence my question.
You are spot on with the ZERO knowledge of this transmission. It's actually sad. If this was a Corvette, they would be able to say exactly why the sensor is failing at temperature and be able to fix it.

They only way they know it is the sensor (and not something reading the sensor or another electronic gremlin) is because the P1733 code through PIWIS says Shift Rod 3 Distance sensor and shows that at some point when temp reaches 60C it stops transmitting the impedence/distance of the shift rod. But again, if it's actually the sensor, who knows.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 12:02 PM
  #200  
surfinglbi23's Avatar
surfinglbi23
Instructor
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 134
Likes: 1
Default

Man what a rough story, sorry to hear you are going through this. Hopefully you get it back sorted ASAP!
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 12:50 PM
  #201  
iflat6's Avatar
iflat6
Track Day
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: Paris
Default

Originally Posted by ehandschuh
You are spot on with the ZERO knowledge of this transmission. It's actually sad. If this was a Corvette, they would be able to say exactly why the sensor is failing at temperature and be able to fix it.

They only way they know it is the sensor (and not something reading the sensor or another electronic gremlin) is because the P1733 code through PIWIS says Shift Rod 3 Distance sensor and shows that at some point when temp reaches 60C it stops transmitting the impedence/distance of the shift rod. But again, if it's actually the sensor, who knows.
Do you have ZF service office close to where you are? I’m suggesting that path cause I’ve visited one and even if they cannot “officially” open nor repair this gearbox, they have special diagnose tools to find out more exactly where the issue is coming from...remember they are the manufacturer of this PDK (FYI internal reference is 7DT45HL(A) ). It is also worth mentioning they have the skills to open and repair it...so they may be able to do it unofficially....just some ideas.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 12:55 PM
  #202  
DC911S's Avatar
DC911S
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,956
Likes: 453
Default

Where does ZF have service offices open to the public?
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 01:35 PM
  #203  
ehandschuh's Avatar
ehandschuh
Intermediate
 
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 46
Likes: 1
From: Philadelphia, PA
Default

Originally Posted by iflat6
Do you have ZF service office close to where you are? I’m suggesting that path cause I’ve visited one and even if they cannot “officially” open nor repair this gearbox, they have special diagnose tools to find out more exactly where the issue is coming from...remember they are the manufacturer of this PDK (FYI internal reference is 7DT45HL(A) ). It is also worth mentioning they have the skills to open and repair it...so they may be able to do it unofficially....just some ideas.
Didn't even occur to me to look for that. Thank you! I found two near my house, called and left a message. Fingers crossed they get back to me and can at least do additional diagnostics.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2017 | 02:40 PM
  #204  
Ira Zoot's Avatar
Ira Zoot
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 64
Likes: 1
From: Northwest Chicago Suburbs
Default

Man ... sucks to see people having the same problem. I'm still at the mercy of the Mechanics strike over here. Actually did get a post from the tech who was working on the car when they had to stop and he was very cool about it. As much as I want my car back I'm not pissed at the mechanics or the dealer ... mostly out of their control. The most aggravating thing is there is another payment coming up and it's been on the rack the whole month. I spoke with the Service Manager and he's going to look into if there is any assist PCNA will give toward that. It's not my fault it's not already done and on the road ... so I'm getting further penalized. Anyhow ... stuck in limbo.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2017 | 02:47 PM
  #205  
Iceter's Avatar
Iceter
Drifting
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,612
Likes: 424
From: Raleigh, North Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by Ira Zoot
The most aggravating thing is there is another payment coming up and it's been on the rack the whole month.
Payment for what? For the transmission or its replacement? Why would you need to pay anything to anyone until your car is back and in working order?

Or do you just mean a car payment? That's tough luck, I'm afraid.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2017 | 03:26 PM
  #206  
Ira Zoot's Avatar
Ira Zoot
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 64
Likes: 1
From: Northwest Chicago Suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by Iceter
Payment for what? For the transmission or its replacement? Why would you need to pay anything to anyone until your car is back and in working order?

Or do you just mean a car payment? That's tough luck, I'm afraid.
The Car payment ... I'm really with you on this that it's nothing I can do much about. But I've had a couple friends who've suggested asking about it.

I figure why not ask ... the worst that can be said to me is nothing can be done. Best case ... who knows. But it's not a cheap payment for having a car sit on a rack due to nothing I personally had any responsibility for.

I haven't "beaten" on the dealership about anything as I don't think it's their or the mechanics fault. Plus ... the service manager has been top notch and really helped out getting me some consideration on the repair costs. Mostly I just want to get the car out and drive the crap out of it
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2017 | 03:46 PM
  #207  
rickdogg82's Avatar
rickdogg82
Pro
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 533
Likes: 7
From: Laguna Niguel, CA
Default

I would leave it alone. You got a good deal. Besides, everyone has made their car payment this month.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2017 | 03:57 PM
  #208  
Ira Zoot's Avatar
Ira Zoot
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 64
Likes: 1
From: Northwest Chicago Suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by iflat6
Will you finally look to replace internal part inside the gearbox? Wondering how this can be done since even ZF cannot source parts under exclusive porsche licensing
Mostly just going to leave things alone ... frankly after the last month dealing with this and now it looks like hassles dealing with the Toyota dealer getting some things done on my FJ I don't have any fight left. Tho I may have some interesting stories to tell about this Toyota dealer after I get my truck this afternoon.

Feeling and looking like they really hosed me on things they should have done. I really wish I learned how to work on cars growing up ... sucking relying on others these days.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2017 | 05:52 PM
  #209  
user 72902's Avatar
user 72902
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,251
Likes: 22
Default

Originally Posted by Ira Zoot
Man ... sucks to see people having the same problem. I'm still at the mercy of the Mechanics strike over here. Actually did get a post from the tech who was working on the car when they had to stop and he was very cool about it. As much as I want my car back I'm not pissed at the mechanics or the dealer ... mostly out of their control. The most aggravating thing is there is another payment coming up and it's been on the rack the whole month. I spoke with the Service Manager and he's going to look into if there is any assist PCNA will give toward that. It's not my fault it's not already done and on the road ... so I'm getting further penalized. Anyhow ... stuck in limbo.
Didn't the dealer give you a loaner? I thought I remember reading that and if so I'd doubt they would compensate you any more but good luck. Sounds like you've had a tuff run lately.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2017 | 06:13 PM
  #210  
msingh5649's Avatar
msingh5649
Instructor
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 128
Likes: 2
Default dealership

Originally Posted by Ira Zoot
Mostly just going to leave things alone ... frankly after the last month dealing with this and now it looks like hassles dealing with the Toyota dealer getting some things done on my FJ I don't have any fight left. Tho I may have some interesting stories to tell about this Toyota dealer after I get my truck this afternoon.

Feeling and looking like they really hosed me on things they should have done. I really wish I learned how to work on cars growing up ... sucking relying on others these days.
Ironically just had the engine on my Tacoma go out. I never take it to a dealer anymore, as they are always silly expensive.

Found a guy in Schaumburg who is awesome at this stuff as an alternative.
Reply



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 01:11 PM.