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Old 03-30-2017 | 11:12 AM
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eh.. depending on lifestyle maybe it works. I have two cars. Both coupes. One is the 997 GTS.. the other one is quicker, AWD, and turbocharged. Similar enough to the idea proposed in OP. Not a 911 though. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I prefer a RWD coupe though. I'll probably add a 991.2 Carrera (not sure what kind) at some point.. so I can get a 911 with a turbo but still keep RWD
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I sold my C2S for a Turbo because the torque was addicting. I miss the C2S but will not sell the Turbo to go back...I would add one though.
Old 03-30-2017 | 12:17 PM
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Having 2 of the same car, one being a "fast" version is a little too much "hey, look at me" for me.
So my wife frequently tells me.
Old 03-30-2017 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny DB
I sold my C2S for a Turbo because the torque was addicting. I miss the C2S but will not sell the Turbo to go back...I would add one though.
Your Turbo (in your pic at left) is stunning.
Old 03-30-2017 | 01:16 PM
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I test drove one in 2014 back to back with my C2S and surprisingly I actually preferred my C2S - it felt much more agile and light - would definitely miss this car if I were to trade. The 911 Turbo would be a bit of a trophy purchase - I certainly don't need it.

Then there is the new 911's all being all turbo - that bothers me but I don't think it will take away from the 911 Turbo icon but I also don't think it will help depreciation.

Track use no longer interests me as much - cutting down to maybe 1 event per year - too much risk with these nice machines rather toss around a cheap 944 and save the stress.
Old 03-30-2017 | 03:20 PM
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If I'm going to have 2 cars I prefer them to be wildly different so I can change up the driving experience and appreciate the unique characteristics more. I recently supplemented my 997 with an early Land Rover Discovery and have been really enjoying it.
Old 03-30-2017 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Strelok
If I'm going to have 2 cars I prefer them to be wildly different so I can change up the driving experience and appreciate the unique characteristics more. I recently supplemented my 997 with an early Land Rover Discovery and have been really enjoying it.
I'm with you on that.

Slowly talking myself out of this haha.
Old 03-30-2017 | 03:55 PM
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You'll never drive the S, unless it's a cab or dedicated track car. Been there and done that.
Old 03-30-2017 | 04:16 PM
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TT is - point and shoot
2S is - point, aim, and shoot.

I enjoy the steering feel of the 2S.
That is lost in the AWD. Well not lost, but not the same.
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Here is the devil that tempted me
Old 03-30-2017 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jsalah
Your Turbo (in your pic at left) is stunning.
Thank you!
Old 03-30-2017 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Para82
I test drove one in 2014 back to back with my C2S and surprisingly I actually preferred my C2S - it felt much more agile and light - would definitely miss this car if I were to trade. The 911 Turbo would be a bit of a trophy purchase - I certainly don't need it.

Then there is the new 911's all being all turbo - that bothers me but I don't think it will take away from the 911 Turbo icon but I also don't think it will help depreciation.

Track use no longer interests me as much - cutting down to maybe 1 event per year - too much risk with these nice machines rather toss around a cheap 944 and save the stress.
Definitely agree my C2S felt lighter. Two different cars and the ideal solution is to have both.
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Originally Posted by Para82
Here is the devil that tempted me
That's a beauty and she has PCCBs!! That's a good thing as you would be disappointed with the steels since you have the PCCB on your C2S.

Buy it!
Old 03-30-2017 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Para82
Here is the devil that tempted me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uLRx2e2BHk
Looks really clean - you're screwed One black one and one white one would make for a pretty cool monochrome existence, both with the PCCBs.

What's the normal turbo oil pressure on a mostly cold engine - this one was showing 2.5 bar. My non-turbo idles at 3.5 bar when the oil temp is 200 degrees or higher.

Also, first dash warning was low fuel. Wonder what the 2 warning messages and beeps after that one were.....
Old 03-30-2017 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Strelok
If I'm going to have 2 cars I prefer them to be wildly different so I can change up the driving experience and appreciate the unique characteristics more.
I agree with the above. The 997.1TT is a different car than the 997.1 CS for sure... but not different enough that I personally would want to own both. I had a 997.2 Carrera that I sold before buying my current Turbo. The NA sounds better, feels more tossable and light, and has different driving dynamics due to it being RWD. I liked those things about it. The Turbo definitely feels more planted at all times and good gracious is it fast. I mean from 0-60, 60-100, 100-130 *(only in Mexico), it doesn't matter. You press the gas and this car moves. It's so effortless. And like you said, if you have the desire, 600hp can be attained with a few basic mods and a tune.

As for depreciation, that's a topic that gets debated weekly over in the 997 Turbo forum. I think everyone agrees that while it won't appreciate like the 993 Turbos did, it probably is at or very near the floor and will not depreciate much more from here. I bought mine thinking it would be a car that I can own, drive, maintain, and then sell maybe 5-10 years down the road for essentially what I paid for it. If it goes up in value, great... but I don't see these dipping below $50K, especially not with the 996s starting to rise in price a little bit.

Given that last point, you probably could buy one now, drive it for a year or two and sell it for what you paid if you find you don't like having two fairly similar cars. Though, if it were me, I'd either sell the 997S or forget the idea of the Turbo... I wouldn't have both together.


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