Kg11

That is cool! I didn't know that either. My CU limits loans to cars 10 years or newer.

Vincent713

It's actually a C4 big difference from a C4S. I don't like the exterior mods he's done to it but interior looks clean.

C4SNY

Vincent713

VIN check and it shows C4

https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AA29989S706844/

C4SNY

Vincent713

That car auction has ended, I was looking at the car below it, that was where the confusion started.

srcn

A CPO'd Turbo S for $80k?!

https://www.bramanporsche.com/invent...ad2a90bs766321

raidersfan

The other one on their site, with 13,000 miles, was listed at $94,900 (and now sold) so given the mileage discount for these at $4,000/10k miles, it seems like $80k is about right. TTS aren't in particularly high demand, from what I have seen, so they depreciate very steeply. After all, a 2017 C2S will offer as much performance in a much newer package (faster lap times if you are into that sort of thing), and you can get a manual.

I started tracking TTS prices last summer, and they are dropping fast, unlike 997.2 and 991.1 prices, which have been relatively steady.

Robocop305

Great price!

srcn

Hmm, that would benefit me, it's kinda what I'm interested in. Fast, lots of torque, softer suspension with PDK. More of a GT car than my C4S with its stiff TechArt setup.
Guess I'll have to track TT-S prices too.

srcn

Interesting to me only because it has Sea Blue LWB's. Oohhh my.
Yeah I plan to sell my car..but those seats would look amazing in it. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-67-995-a.html

mujeriega

Seems like fair pricing to me after the multiple price drops.

Skwerl

Probably a controversial opinion but I kind of think that over time, as PDKs become better and even more ubiquitous, the 997TTS will barely have more cachet than a tuned Turbo with a Tiptronic. Yeah, it's technically faster and better, but what's going to drive value in the soon-to-be-retro 997 is going to be the "vintage experience" of a manual transmission.

rw229

As someone who moved from air-cooled to a 997.2 C2S PDK and traded it for a 997.2 C2S manual within a year, I agree with your assessment.

raidersfan

Especially now that the bar has been raised on the 991 from a power and performance standpoint. It is a tough argument to favor a TTS or 997.2 TT (non-Mezger). For $95k you can get a:
1) low mile 2011 TTS; everything awesome is standard. 0-60 in 2.8, Laguna Seca lap time of 1:40. No manual available. Heavy car.
2) low mile 2017 Carrera S with sport options (RWS, Sport PASM). Remaining factory warranty. 0-60 3.1 seconds, Laguna Seca time of 1:36 (3% faster). Lighter, more fun car than the TTS. Manual available.

From a performance standpoint, it is no contest. What does the TTS do better than the C2S at the same price? It isn't the classic Mezger, and it isn't a manual. At least a manual can be had on the C2S. it will depreciate just as much initially, even used; a TTS has already lost 1/2 of its value. A 15,000 mile 2017 C2S may be only worth 1/2 of its value in 2025 as well, but there is a big difference between 1/2 of $130k and 1/2 of $185k.

I suppose I should ask: outside of cachet, what does a TTS offer that a 2017 C2S doesn't? The bit more "raw" experience is much diminished by the car being 4WD; I would argue a 991.2 is more "raw" at the limit. Cosmetics? Those are personal opinion, but I do like the turbo bodywork. Luxury? The C2S can be ordered up with just as much leather and goodies as the TTS has standard.

If I were looking at a DD, I would look at a TTS at sub 80k. Otherwise, it is newer platform all the way! I would be all over a 997.1 manual, but so is everyone else!

What do y'all think?