Numeric Racing vs OEM shifter
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I'm curious as well on those that went from OE SSK to Numerical and the difference, please comment if this is you.
I have OE SSK and love it compared to regular OE but all the Numeric threads have me interested
I have OE SSK and love it compared to regular OE but all the Numeric threads have me interested
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From: Sacramento, CA
I went from an OEM SSK to the Numeric. Hard to know exactly, but to me the middle setting on the Numeric seems to be about the same as the short shift kit. I did run the car for the last couple of months on the shortest throw setup and it is much shorter. Doing so made the shifts, hard to put into words, more notchy feeling maybe. You can certainly tell when you are in gear, it is a very positive engagement. The throw is short and sweet, I can go first to second, third to fourth, by just pulling the base of the shift **** with my finger tips. Going into reverse when on the shortest throw takes a bit of force.
I have also installed the Function First motor mounts and transmission inserts. I really like this setup now. The motor mounts being much stiffer make for a slight bit of vibration inside the car when sitting at a stop light and idling. But I like it, not annoying and to me has a more "sport car" feel and less of a super smooth family car. I think adding the transmission inserts (yellow street version) is what has all but eliminated the not being able to shift into first gear at will. I didn't have a huge issue with that but it did happen a few times a week before and since putting in the transmission inserts I can't remember the last time it happened.
I am very happy with this setup and the Numeric shift is a smooth as butter. Don't know if the OEM unit would have been also as I did the Numeric first. The build quality is superb and glad to have the plastic OEM unit out of there. I think someone mentioned earlier, the left hand cable is actually attached to a plastic post...really Porsche!! A $100K+ car and this is where you decide to cut corners...on a shift unit that gets run though the paces every time the car is driven.
I have also installed the Function First motor mounts and transmission inserts. I really like this setup now. The motor mounts being much stiffer make for a slight bit of vibration inside the car when sitting at a stop light and idling. But I like it, not annoying and to me has a more "sport car" feel and less of a super smooth family car. I think adding the transmission inserts (yellow street version) is what has all but eliminated the not being able to shift into first gear at will. I didn't have a huge issue with that but it did happen a few times a week before and since putting in the transmission inserts I can't remember the last time it happened.
I am very happy with this setup and the Numeric shift is a smooth as butter. Don't know if the OEM unit would have been also as I did the Numeric first. The build quality is superb and glad to have the plastic OEM unit out of there. I think someone mentioned earlier, the left hand cable is actually attached to a plastic post...really Porsche!! A $100K+ car and this is where you decide to cut corners...on a shift unit that gets run though the paces every time the car is driven.
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I went from OEM SSK to Numeric. I'm very happy I did. tighter feel and more accurate. Similar throw on the middle setting.
I also replaced the cable in the process and noticed that the old one was falling off the transmission side mounts. I recommend anyone who is working on the shifter examine that.
I think if i did it again. I'd buy the numeric shift cables as well. the porsche cables are a little cheesy.
I also replaced the cable in the process and noticed that the old one was falling off the transmission side mounts. I recommend anyone who is working on the shifter examine that.
I think if i did it again. I'd buy the numeric shift cables as well. the porsche cables are a little cheesy.
Racer
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Not me.....stock only. I've read that the GT3 shifter is a decent upgrade over the base model shifters...but I went straight to the Numeric. I have a set of GT3 RS shift cables, but have not installed them yet as I wanted to see the difference of the shifter with stock cables. I am fine with it and will keep the RS ones as spare.
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Drifting
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From: Bay Area, CA
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Drifting
Joined: Sep 2013
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From: Bay Area, CA
Not me.....stock only. I've read that the GT3 shifter is a decent upgrade over the base model shifters...but I went straight to the Numeric. I have a set of GT3 RS shift cables, but have not installed them yet as I wanted to see the difference of the shifter with stock cables. I am fine with it and will keep the RS ones as spare.
Drifting
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Like others here I found my original OEM shifter lacking so I swapped it out 3 yrs ago with a B&M SSK. An improvement over the OEM but earlier this year I gave the Numeric a try. https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-1-of-5-a.html Knowing what I know now I should have gone straight to the Numeric.
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Drifting
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From: Bay Area, CA
Like others here I found my original OEM shifter lacking so I swapped it out 3 yrs ago with a B&M SSK. An improvement over the OEM but earlier this year I gave the Numeric a try. https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...-1-of-5-a.html Knowing what I know now I should have gone straight to the Numeric.
Thanks for putting it together!
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^^ i'm looking for advice on the cable issue as well. i'm afraid that adding cup type cables will introduce more nvh than i'd like and i believe the numeric cables are a facsimile of cup cables. my semi solid motor mounts are enough but i am seriously considering the numeric with my oem cables. i'm currently w/ the 997ssk.
any advice re cables is appreciated.
any advice re cables is appreciated.
Drifting
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From: Austin, TX
I prefer incremental change/mods... helps with troubleshooting. Plus I was waiting for the OEM cables to snap but after 66K+ miles they're still OK. May just have to preemptively swap to/try the Numeric cables.
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Personally, I just didn't know that Numeric offered the cables at the time. Once I saw the OE cables and realized that they have a rubber/plastic bushing end I was disappointed. I was really hoping for all metal ball-end style cables like the Numeric cables (just like the shift linkage on a moto) Next time I dig into it I'll switch the cables out.
Drifting
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From: Austin, TX
Personally, I just didn't know that Numeric offered the cables at the time. Once I saw the OE cables and realized that they have a rubber/plastic bushing end I was disappointed. I was really hoping for all metal ball-end style cables like the Numeric cables (just like the shift linkage on a moto) Next time I dig into it I'll switch the cables out.