Macster

Be careful. If the accident was minor there's no reason to offer the car at a seriously reduced price. I mean the headlight, fender, and bumper cover, even the frunk lid are all replaceable with factory parts. Some just sheet metal or plastic bumper cover damage is quite repairable and any qualified shop should be able to put the car back to its pre-collision condition. While the car has the stigma of an accident on its record there's no reason to really discount the car.

Do you know where the car was hit? The location? Where it was repaired? I'd try to find out and try to learn the extent of the damage and the repair cost. Google the VIN and see what pops up.

Or wait for the PPI. Be sure the PPI knows the car was in an accident and really looks for signs of serious accident damage and substandard repair. Look for new suspension/steering parts on one side and original parts on the side. Look for new A/C condenser, radiator, hoses, etc on one side and original on the other. Check wheel part numbers to make sure they match. Check tire date codes to make sure the tires are of the same age.

Check brake hardware for differences. And so on. Oh, be sure a paint thickness meter is used and the paint thickness agrees with what these cars come with from the factory. If you find lots of panels have been painted... the accident may not have been so minor. If the rear fenders/quarter panels have been painted this suggests the car was hit in the rear which can be a real problem as those fenders and quarter panels are part of the tub unlike the front fenders.

Have the PPI remove the front bumper cover and inspect underneath for any signs substandard repair. And for any signs the hardware is new on one or even both sides. Check for paint tape ridges. Feel along body panel gaps for any paint roughness. Look for signs of overspray on the body around the door hinges and so on.

Be sure the car is aligned and the alignment adjustment is not all used up to get the car aligned properly. At least have the car put on a rack and checked to make sure it is not off too bad and the tech doing the PPI can assure you nothing is really bent.

To be considered road ready after an accident the car should have been inspected by a qualified tech at an authorized dealer and found ok to put back on the road. If you have no proof this was done it should be done as a pre-condition to you buying the car.

robbonds

Give us details about the car and the price. "A seriously reduced price" is a subjective term.

myw

+1. what was the extent of the damage... if its merely a bumper/single fender replace (what i consider minor) then thats not in any way a big deal at all. however if they say it was 'minor', yet costing 25 grand to fix i wouldnt bother.

PBenz

Sorry - drove to Daytona this morning and caught most of the Continental Tire race today. What a day!

First let me thank Macster for taking the time to write that post. It was very helpful - that's sticky-worthy advice right there. (I'll respond to your PM in a sec..)

Ok: the car is a 2012 Carrera S with about 7,000 miles, PDK, Sport Chrono, heated & ventilated seats, and they are asking $71,9k. There are several similarly optioned non-CPO'd 2011 S's out there with just a bit more miles for at least 4 grand more. Dealer thinks that people don't like the blue interior. Maybe that's part of it, but I think it's more the accident. I dismissed it several months ago for that very reason. It's only after speaking with a lot of different people that I've started to reconsider.

I'll expand on what I wrote in my first post: the police report indicates that the car was hit by a van while the car was parked, sustaining damage to the front fender. I'm am told that the fender was not changed and the car was just badly scratched. Dealer has a paint meter and says the paint checks out, but doesn't have the receipt for the work. Not a show stopper if PPI checks out.

Going ahead with the PPI.

Charley250

Here is my project!
A true salvage, but the car is gonna cost me less than $23000 at the end!
My first Porsche at 21YO!



Need to change:
Right Rear Arms
Windshield
Rear Bumper
Heater Box
Right Rear Quarter
Right Sill
Right Door Assembly
Right Tail Light
Right Seat

TommyV44

These cars can be fixed perfectly by the right shop….mine was!

And I'd never sell her! Look at the quality of the repair…the price….and the PPI and make your decision!

Good Luck!

Tom

sandwedge

You're saying 23K when all done? I've seen far less visible carnage than that resulting in frame damage but you obviously checked that out. Where and how do you detach the rear quarter from the roof?

Mark Harris

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...nal&listType=1

http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...&partner=COO_0

myw

i think 1/4 panel like many coupes requires cutting/welding.

myw

car looks stunning imo.

mattyf

How about you start a new thread.

Chuck W.

Please do.

Charley250

I dont to do a project thread!

I just want to say that you can save cars from the trash even if its a Porsche!

And yes im gonna change the quarter by cutting and welding a new one!

This is my new Quarter and Sill


All my parts are black like the car (Quarter, Door, Mirror...)

Sorry about my English, I'm French Canadian!

PBenz

Charley250 - best of luck with your project.

Mark Harris - yup - that's the one. Here is it on manheim:

http://mmsc400.manheim.com/MABEL/ECR...CR&SWO=1828869

I'd never heard of that site before Macster (Marc) pointed it out to me in a PM. Not really sure what to make of it - the car looks very clean. Here's a link to explain their grading system.

Chaos

+1 I want to follow it.
Mine came with a new rear bumper!
Here is a pic of his.