jmt053

I just bought my 2011 C4S last Friday. It too has a MT (my preference over the PDK). I paid $76k. It has 4400 miles on it and is similarly equipped to the one you are looking at.

sandwedge

Dealer or private party?

Augustomf

I would go for a 997.1 TT for same and Mezger engine.

Jaws1

I haven't seen any failures with the 9A1 yet.

I agree that the Mezger is a superior engine, but since the 991TTs and GT3s are based on the new engine, it has to be pretty good.

jmt053

I bought mine through a broker. I've known him for 20 years and have bought several cars from him over that time. He had it listed for $80K and sold it to me for $76.
The attraction was the low miles and that it has a MT.

Chris - 97C2

Right around $80k would be my guess since it's a CPO car. Remember, CPO is like $2400 plus all the work they wind up doing to it. Get a copy of the CPO report and the service details and it will give you an idea of what they found.

boulderbobo

Dealer.

rodsky

Don't you have one already?

alexb76

I think under 80K is a good price.

Now, quite curious as if 991 CRAZY pricing can actually raise some of the 997 values? The difference now between a fully optioned 991 and a fully optioned 997 is something in the range of ~70-75K! I really think it should be a lot lower than that.. and maybe that raises the 997 prices a bit.

sandwedge

Agree 100% and I've said as much to other buyers in the past. I was working a deal on another car at the same time which is why I wasn't inclined to get involved in a bidding war which for all I knew was bogus to begin with.

I do but I've had it for almost three years now and I usually trade every two years. Just one of those things that can't be explained....

rodsky

Not really once you think about it. Sure if you configure a 2014 991 C4S to the hilt and then compare that to a 2007 C4S then its $75K. But one is 7 years older. That's not apples to apples.

Look at this 2011 C4S - it will sell for $75K at a minimum. In 2009 I could have bought a brand new launch C4S for $87K. I ended up buying my brand new C2S for $86K instead (give or take a few dollars). 2013 991's already brand new - you can get 10-15% off sticker. 2012's 991's are under $100K easily. So they are dropping quite a bit. And the 997 is dropping way more slowly. I think I can get around $60K for my car 4 years later. Certainly a dealer could (its CPO 23K miles). So the gap is narrowing fast, unless you have to order a brand new C4S with deviated stitching and carbon bits and the fanciest stereo known to man. None of which will make it a better sports car. A different market and Porsche is catering to THOSE buyers more so than ever.

rodsky

You're weird

You're trading for in essence the same car. Get a GTS if you're going to do that. At least its a little bit different. Maybe $5K more - no?

alexb76

Well, the thing is, to build a 2014 C4S with options like that (PSE, Nav, Full leather, heated seats, Chrono, Bose, etc...), it'd be around $140. So, let's say this car (2011, 11K miles) is sold for $75K, and you build a C4S for $140 ... the difference is $65K! That's outragous, and makes 997 a STEAL!

Augustomf

I have the new engine on my 991S and I love my car, but if I were looking at a 997, I would tend to go for the 997.1 turbo for the simple last of an era effect. I feel that car will soon begin to have a following like the 993 and depreciation rates could be much lower because of that. Also performance wise a faster car. But again, that is my simple opinion based on nothing more than feeling.

nzskater

I'm of the same opinion, part of (small part) the reason I'm now a 997.1T owner