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Old 07-29-2012, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PHX 911
Zaino here.
Z5 pro since I have dark car (macadamia).
I like Wolfgangs car shampoo, but use Zaino's for that, too.
Raggtop products on the top.
For polishes, I have a Flex, and use Adam's polishing system (polishes and pads)
With a couple coats of Zaino, I wash and detail spray every couple weeks, 2 bucket system, with a grit guard.
I dont use waxes, as the melting points are 160 or so, and those flash off here in PHX.
If you can't tell, I'm in to it.....
Zaino Bros... Only the best, twice a year and it has a deep deep gloss to it. My car is black.

John
Old 07-29-2012, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fskof
Great boat! I have a 2003 Mastercraft Prostar 209 with the MCX engine
Are you on http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/
Not on teamtalk. Too busy trying to ski like I'm still 25.
We put about 600 hours on our boat and then sell it each fall or spring.
Already replaced the water pump 2 times on this years boat.
Old 07-29-2012, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jgoga
Zaino Bros... Only the best, twice a year and it has a deep deep gloss to it. My car is black.

John
Absolutely no disrespect meant, but those that wax 2 times a year are out of the focus group. I'm looking for the **** folks among us. P)
Those that appreciate the difference between a fresh wax job and one a week old.
Old 07-29-2012, 05:19 PM
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OK
that's 2 for Souveran.
1 for Mothers Gold
Old 07-29-2012, 05:36 PM
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For the ultimate unmatched look I did this combo:

Polish - with Menzerna's Micro Polish SF 4500 formerly known as the Micro Finish PO85RD
Glaze - with ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze
Wax- Pinnacle Souverän™ Carnauba Paste Wax
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Carnauba Detail Spray
Old 07-29-2012, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Skibum
OK
that's 2 for Souveran.
1 for Mothers Gold
If you want to be really **** you might try spit shining with the Pinnacle Souveran. The fact that Souveran doesn't have cleaners and is a higher grade of carnauba allows it to layer which adds slightly more depth and makes the paint feel incredible soft. Yes I've done it a few times.

Look up spit shine technique in Autopia.
Old 07-29-2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fskof
For the ultimate unmatched look I did this combo:

Polish - with Menzerna's Micro Polish SF 4500 formerly known as the Micro Finish PO85RD
Glaze - with ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze
Wax- Pinnacle Souverän™ Carnauba Paste Wax
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Carnauba Detail Spray
I'm a huge fan of Pinnacle Crystal Mist. It helps maintain the deep look and it significantly reduces the static caused by rubbing a microfiber on a surface. Reducing static eliminates the tiny lint you can get from a microfiber. Yeah I'm really ****. The only way I could justify using it was buying a gallon of it.
Old 07-29-2012, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Skibum
Absolutely no disrespect meant, but those that wax 2 times a year are out of the focus group. I'm looking for the **** folks among us. P)
Those that appreciate the difference between a fresh wax job and one a week old.
No disrespect here either, but if you can tell the difference between a new and one week old "wax" job, you're either washing/drying the car improperly, or with the wrong products, or haven't properly prepared the paint prior to putting any product on. A good detail spray that's compatible with your wax or sealant should restore the shine with a lot less effort.
Paint prep makes all the difference in the shine,particularly with dark colors.
Get a Flex or Porter/Cable polisher and Adam's polishes/pad system, and you can achieve an amazing shine with Turtle Wax. As another alternative, you may want to consider all of Adam's products, as I've found them pretty good across the board.
You may want to put a synthetic paint sealant on first, and a carnuba product on top of that. My experience with that combo was
excellent on a black Z06 I had a while back.
Not sure I want to be in your "**** focus group", but I probably
qualify...
Old 07-29-2012, 06:03 PM
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PHX

I think it's just being ****.
If I were to take a freshly waxed car and wash it then dry it, to me the finish doesn't look as good as when just waxed.
And I'd never use power tools.
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Afshin

I've pretty much hated every detail spray I've used.
I'll consider giving the mist a try.
Thanks

PS If you buy your cleaning products by the gallon, you may be as **** as I am.
Old 07-29-2012, 06:08 PM
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Im using Zaino Z2, or if i feel lazy use the Zaino All in one to save time as its just one coat. I wax about 3 x a year. Works well on Silver.
Old 07-29-2012, 06:13 PM
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Shine products that work well on silver do not do what a dark color needs.
(At least that's what I've learned by doing a bit of reading)
Old 07-29-2012, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by aaks38
Im using Zaino Z2, or if i feel lazy use the Zaino All in one to save time as its just one coat. I wax about 3 x a year. Works well on Silver.
This is the first silver-specific recommendation I've seen. Would love to see more opinions. This is a timely subject, because I've been wondering what the silver P-car owners might endorse. Any other silver owners have a strong brand preference?
Old 07-29-2012, 06:17 PM
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Do any of these higher-end waxes come tinted black? Maybe I'm just lazy (for a car entusiast, that is), but I find the Turtle Wax Black Box system from WalMart to be all I need. And there is never any white wax left in difficult to reach areas.
Old 07-29-2012, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Skibum
PHX

I think it's just being ****.
If I were to take a freshly waxed car and wash it then dry it, to me the finish doesn't look as good as when just waxed.
And I'd never use power tools.
I knew what you meant, but couldn't resist teasing you a bit.
If you wax weekly and using the right stuff, adding another coat is layering and you get a better shine with each application. So, yes, it does look better, with the trade off of a lot of work. I found about 3 layers of anything I reach the point of diminishing return.
You should, twice a year, more frequent if you're in an area with a lot of pollution, strip the car, then polish it. That's the only way to remove swirls that are unavoidable, no matter what techniques you use to wash, dry, and wax.
Power tools are a must for good polishing. The Flex polisher is about $300, but there's nothing better, and it's easy to use, as it's difficult to burn a sharp edge if you're careless, as it orbits at some crazy speed. You can hand polish, but I can do my whole 911 in about 1 1/2 hours with the Flex, which would take a good 4 hours by hand.


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