mattyf

Please 996 guys, stay in the 997 forum. The 997 forum can be way too stuffy and the 991 is even worse.

beden1

An Army of this would be terrifying:

Cuda911

When I was in elementary school, the gym teacher was Coach Bjork. He was one of those guys who, if he caught you chewing gum, smeared it into you hair so that you had to cut out a big chunk.

996pp

Good old days. That is why we turned out with better manners that this new generation cant and wont ever understand

genyosai

I'm in the same boat. I changed my oil again 5,500 miles ago. I check the level frequently expecting it to be down a liter every 1,000-3,000 miles like some other performance cars I have. I have to say.... I'm loving this car (This is my first Porsche).

My e92 m3 drinks oil AND fuel and has had more little repair issues than my 997.2 CS (because the 911 has had ZERO repair issues). Don't mention my e60 m5. My f-cars I won't even compare to, for I don't consider them daily drivable cars and therefore unfair to place them into this category.

I hope my 997.2 continues to be as reliable. I've done NOTHING to it but routine maintenance. I just turned 45,900 miles.

PDK, PSE, PASM, Sport Chrono, Sharkwerks Exhaust

Robocop305

^Mine is also problem free. I was talking to a Porsche mechanic and said that he rarely see any 997.2 at the shop, unless is for routine maintenance. Believe it or not he sees more 997 GT3s at the shop, considering both cars seeing the track.

awrryan

Still on the original IMS bearing?

estorilblue

997.2 DFI. correct me if I am wrong. No IMS.

genyosai

No IMS on 2009 and up. This is the reason I finally bought a 911.... after following the IMS issue for so long then learning that 2009 eliminated the system.

awrryan

I was being sarcastic. No IMS bearing. That's the reason I about a 997.2 also.

NAM VET

Read recently in an English Porsche mag about the potential for bore scoring in the earlier 997 motors, esp the S versions, and how English used car dealers deal with that potential.

I just had to replace the #3 piston and liner in my '07 GT3, because a new spark plug dropped its electrode and ceramic insulator into the cylinder. My engine is of course the Mezger one, very different than the 997.1 motors.

I have the piston and liner on my workbench, and it is amazing to me that there is absolutely no wear or scoring of any kind on the 30K mile liner. In fact it still has the factory hone marks only.

Kind of amazing to me how new looking the 30K liner and piston look, no scratches at all from the electrode, although the piston has some nicks on the top.

Engine failed a thousand miles from home, was "down" for 5 weeks, and just drove it home from KC to coastal SC. A great drive,

My former '07 997 S in the 35 K miles I owned it had only one repair, the main BUS, something that distributes electrical energy here and there in the car, was a $500 warranty repair, under my CPO at the time.

Actually, I think all modern cars are exceedingly reliable, not like when I started with British sports cars back in the mid '60's. But modern cars are far more complex, and when something does go wrong, it can be expensive.

all the best....

all the best....

Ahsai

I think I've read a few new posts mentioning 997.2 engines being replaced by the dealer. Any more info on what the issues were?

phaphaphooey

For the most part the only negative posts I have read about the durability of the 9A1 engine on here have been from two different categories of individuals:

1 individuals that have a significant financial interest in those engines breaking down and/or receiving significant preventative modifications

2 996 owners.

Ahsai

I'm stating a fact, unless those posts were made up by 997.2 owners.

Bruce In Philly

2009 C2S 96K miles

I have formulated an opinion on the 9A1... it is based solely on anecdotal information from the 'net, my indy, and other Porsche owners I know or have come in contact with. In other words, my opinion is not worth that much.... However, I come from owning a 2000 Boxster S that had two engine failures and I was an active accumulator of information for the last 16 years.... I fully admit this does not make me an authority by any means.... but... FWIW, YMMV:

I think the 9A1 is back to being in the category of high-quality engines that Porsche used to produce. However, I think it is a midge less reliable than than the air-cooled before the M96/97. The reason I say this comes solely from my Indy, a many-year shop foreman at a Porsche dealer. He said to me back circa 2006 (pre 9A1), something like "I never replaced an air cooled engine that failed from defect, I only replaced them from abuse such as no-oil etc." . He went on to say something about being disappointed in the M96/M97 failures from engineering. So... the apparently rare failure of the 9A1 puts it a notch below the older air cooled engines.

So do I know what I am talking about? No. Only the engineers and accountants back in Germany know the answer. But hey, this is the 'net!

Peace
Bruce in Philly