997.2 Engine Reliability
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I can understand that comment coming from a '996 Emeritus IMS Survivor'.
However, you really seem to have your priorities backwards... you see, for a die hard capitalist like myself needing to pay Camry bucks even without needing any additional warranty extension whatsoever in order to have peace of mind on the long run just feels plain wrong whilst I have some Porsche money ready to spend burning in my pocket!
Are you some kind of a communist, or what?!
However, you really seem to have your priorities backwards... you see, for a die hard capitalist like myself needing to pay Camry bucks even without needing any additional warranty extension whatsoever in order to have peace of mind on the long run just feels plain wrong whilst I have some Porsche money ready to spend burning in my pocket!
Are you some kind of a communist, or what?!
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I've been reading this entire thread, and I am wondering if it would be wise for me to install a third radiator on my 997.2 c2s 6MT that I track once a month. It gets hot in Texas, though I haven't notice any issues with overheating yet. hmmmm.
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I can understand that comment coming from a '996 Emeritus IMS Survivor'.
However, you really seem to have your priorities backwards... you see, for a die hard capitalist like myself needing to pay Camry bucks even without needing any additional warranty extension whatsoever in order to have peace of mind on the long run just feels plain wrong whilst I have some Porsche money ready to spend burning in my pocket!
Are you some kind of a communist, or what?!![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
However, you really seem to have your priorities backwards... you see, for a die hard capitalist like myself needing to pay Camry bucks even without needing any additional warranty extension whatsoever in order to have peace of mind on the long run just feels plain wrong whilst I have some Porsche money ready to spend burning in my pocket!
Are you some kind of a communist, or what?!
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Enjoy that turkey sandwich.
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As I said much earlier in this thread (should have bailed a long time ago), these opinions do nothing but cause grief and worse, devalue our cars. I've seen it with the 996, the 997.1 and now this.
Jake and I are well acquainted from my days of 996 ownership. I acknowledge that he is an expert in his field, but also feel he has successfully used these forums to promote his business. Fine. The IMS was an issue in the 996 and he capitalized on that. My personal belief is that the problem is overblown, but thanks to these forums, potential purchasers feel like every 996 is a ticking time bomb.
Lucky for Jake the 997.1 had the same issue. Insurance for a few more years of business.
Then the 997.2 arrived with no IMS issue to worry about. So now we get to discuss bore scoring. It's like a broken record that won't stop playing.
But it certain creates new angst and potential business for Jake and others for a few more years. Look at all the previously happy, carefree owners that are now concerned about driving their cars when it is cold outside.
As for CaymanPower, keep stirring the pot. My guess is you never will/never have owned a Porsche. If I am wrong, sorry...but all you are accomplishing here is to potentially make your eventual purchase a little less expensive.
Jake and I are well acquainted from my days of 996 ownership. I acknowledge that he is an expert in his field, but also feel he has successfully used these forums to promote his business. Fine. The IMS was an issue in the 996 and he capitalized on that. My personal belief is that the problem is overblown, but thanks to these forums, potential purchasers feel like every 996 is a ticking time bomb.
Lucky for Jake the 997.1 had the same issue. Insurance for a few more years of business.
Then the 997.2 arrived with no IMS issue to worry about. So now we get to discuss bore scoring. It's like a broken record that won't stop playing.
But it certain creates new angst and potential business for Jake and others for a few more years. Look at all the previously happy, carefree owners that are now concerned about driving their cars when it is cold outside.
As for CaymanPower, keep stirring the pot. My guess is you never will/never have owned a Porsche. If I am wrong, sorry...but all you are accomplishing here is to potentially make your eventual purchase a little less expensive.
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More like a realist. Its clear you have concerns about the 997.2 engine. Fine. Don't buy a 997. I have concerns about the deli meat that's still in my fridge after 9 days. Everything I've read tells me it's not gonna taste very good and could very well make me sick.
Enjoy that turkey sandwich.
Enjoy that turkey sandwich.
Maybe you should extend your wealth care insurance if you intend to keep eating out of date deli meat for the next years...
I seem to remember that you did a warranty extension for your 2nd hand 996 with IMS failure coverage specifically in mind, among other things!
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Money should buy you quality and peace of mind from the get-go, not the other way around!
There's a difference between being a capitalist and having money to throw around... that difference is called quality!
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Why are you reposting parts numbers from the Cayman 2.9L engine to answer this question? Please explain.
Also, why were you banned from Planet 9 (and posted these exact parts numbers 4 years ago?)
http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-b...caymans-6.html
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As I said much earlier in this thread (should have bailed a long time ago), these opinions do nothing but cause grief and worse, devalue our cars. I've seen it with the 996, the 997.1 and now this.
Jake and I are well acquainted from my days of 996 ownership. I acknowledge that he is an expert in his field, but also feel he has successfully used these forums to promote his business. Fine. The IMS was an issue in the 996 and he capitalized on that. My personal belief is that the problem is overblown, but thanks to these forums, potential purchasers feel like every 996 is a ticking time bomb.
Lucky for Jake the 997.1 had the same issue. Insurance for a few more years of business.
Then the 997.2 arrived with no IMS issue to worry about. So now we get to discuss bore scoring. It's like a broken record that won't stop playing.
But it certain creates new angst and potential business for Jake and others for a few more years. Look at all the previously happy, carefree owners that are now concerned about driving their cars when it is cold outside.
As for CaymanPower, keep stirring the pot. My guess is you never will/never have owned a Porsche. If I am wrong, sorry...but all you are accomplishing here is to potentially make your eventual purchase a little less expensive.
Jake and I are well acquainted from my days of 996 ownership. I acknowledge that he is an expert in his field, but also feel he has successfully used these forums to promote his business. Fine. The IMS was an issue in the 996 and he capitalized on that. My personal belief is that the problem is overblown, but thanks to these forums, potential purchasers feel like every 996 is a ticking time bomb.
Lucky for Jake the 997.1 had the same issue. Insurance for a few more years of business.
Then the 997.2 arrived with no IMS issue to worry about. So now we get to discuss bore scoring. It's like a broken record that won't stop playing.
But it certain creates new angst and potential business for Jake and others for a few more years. Look at all the previously happy, carefree owners that are now concerned about driving their cars when it is cold outside.
As for CaymanPower, keep stirring the pot. My guess is you never will/never have owned a Porsche. If I am wrong, sorry...but all you are accomplishing here is to potentially make your eventual purchase a little less expensive.
The DFI engine in the 997.2 911s is solid.
CaymanP's posts, other than being someone transparent in his objectives (he clearly thinks he already has all the expertise and knows the answers), will do nothing to values since there is no negative buzz around the 997.2 engines.
Keep in mind that the cumulative mileage on these engines is somewhere between 750 million and 1.5 billion miles... We would be hearing of many issues if there was a design flaw.
Cayman's beef with Porsche is ... amusing... but seeing as how he has been writing up this for 4 years now, it seems sadder than anything. Who comes on an enthusiast forum to just discuss one narrow topic ad nauseum?
Also, see my post above... clearly something happened at Planet9 too, for him to be banned?
For those of you who are curious about what happened back in 2011, Caymanpower was effectively complaining/predicting that MY09 Caymans would have all have catastrophic engine failure, etc etc. He used those piston part numbers in that thread too... Reading up and down the thread shows that users back then and on that forum noted he would post tons of rants, ignoring the technical responses given, etc etc...
http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-b...caymans-7.html
The thread is worth a read.
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Agreed on all points. I suspect CaymanPower to be a full-on troll on this forum.
The DFI engine in the 997.2 911s is solid.
CaymanP's posts, other than being someone transparent in his objectives (he clearly thinks he already has all the expertise and knows the answers), will do nothing to values since there is no negative buzz around the 997.2 engines.
Keep in mind that the cumulative mileage on these engines is somewhere between 750 million and 1.5 billion miles... We would be hearing of many issues if there was a design flaw.
Cayman's beef with Porsche is ... amusing... but seeing as how he has been writing up this for 4 years now, it seems sadder than anything. Who comes on an enthusiast forum to just discuss one narrow topic ad nauseum?
Also, see my post above... clearly something happened at Planet9 too, for him to be banned?
For those of you who are curious about what happened back in 2011, Caymanpower was effectively complaining/predicting that MY09 Caymans would have all have catastrophic engine failure, etc etc. He used those piston part numbers in that thread too... Reading up and down the thread shows that users back then and on that forum noted he would post tons of rants, ignoring the technical responses given, etc etc...
http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-b...caymans-7.html
The thread is worth a read.
The DFI engine in the 997.2 911s is solid.
CaymanP's posts, other than being someone transparent in his objectives (he clearly thinks he already has all the expertise and knows the answers), will do nothing to values since there is no negative buzz around the 997.2 engines.
Keep in mind that the cumulative mileage on these engines is somewhere between 750 million and 1.5 billion miles... We would be hearing of many issues if there was a design flaw.
Cayman's beef with Porsche is ... amusing... but seeing as how he has been writing up this for 4 years now, it seems sadder than anything. Who comes on an enthusiast forum to just discuss one narrow topic ad nauseum?
Also, see my post above... clearly something happened at Planet9 too, for him to be banned?
For those of you who are curious about what happened back in 2011, Caymanpower was effectively complaining/predicting that MY09 Caymans would have all have catastrophic engine failure, etc etc. He used those piston part numbers in that thread too... Reading up and down the thread shows that users back then and on that forum noted he would post tons of rants, ignoring the technical responses given, etc etc...
http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-b...caymans-7.html
The thread is worth a read.
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Agreed on all points. I suspect CaymanPower to be a full-on troll on this forum.
The DFI engine in the 997.2 911s is solid.
CaymanP's posts, other than being someone transparent in his objectives (he clearly thinks he already has all the expertise and knows the answers), will do nothing to values since there is no negative buzz around the 997.2 engines.
Keep in mind that the cumulative mileage on these engines is somewhere between 750 million and 1.5 billion miles... We would be hearing of many issues if there was a design flaw.
Cayman's beef with Porsche is ... amusing... but seeing as how he has been writing up this for 4 years now, it seems sadder than anything. Who comes on an enthusiast forum to just discuss one narrow topic ad nauseum?
Also, see my post above... clearly something happened at Planet9 too, for him to be banned?
For those of you who are curious about what happened back in 2011, Caymanpower was effectively complaining/predicting that MY09 Caymans would have all have catastrophic engine failure, etc etc. He used those piston part numbers in that thread too... Reading up and down the thread shows that users back then and on that forum noted he would post tons of rants, ignoring the technical responses given, etc etc...
http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-b...caymans-7.html
The thread is worth a read.
The DFI engine in the 997.2 911s is solid.
CaymanP's posts, other than being someone transparent in his objectives (he clearly thinks he already has all the expertise and knows the answers), will do nothing to values since there is no negative buzz around the 997.2 engines.
Keep in mind that the cumulative mileage on these engines is somewhere between 750 million and 1.5 billion miles... We would be hearing of many issues if there was a design flaw.
Cayman's beef with Porsche is ... amusing... but seeing as how he has been writing up this for 4 years now, it seems sadder than anything. Who comes on an enthusiast forum to just discuss one narrow topic ad nauseum?
Also, see my post above... clearly something happened at Planet9 too, for him to be banned?
For those of you who are curious about what happened back in 2011, Caymanpower was effectively complaining/predicting that MY09 Caymans would have all have catastrophic engine failure, etc etc. He used those piston part numbers in that thread too... Reading up and down the thread shows that users back then and on that forum noted he would post tons of rants, ignoring the technical responses given, etc etc...
http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-b...caymans-7.html
The thread is worth a read.
This thread should have been locked long time ago. Even Camrys have issues; we just do not hear about them as their owners are not as afflicted as this fellow. These days there are many utopian objectives in our society and wishing for a production engine with zero issues is just another nonsensical utopian pursuit.
There are many forces at play here. I agree that some benefit from proclaiming gloom and doom even where there is none. As long as the thread remains open, we, the many 9A1 owners with no engine issues, should continue posting testifying our experience, to counter the minority nonsense.
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