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IMS failure for your 997 car, Y or N? tell us (yr, 997.1, .2, m96, m97, failure mode)

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Old 05-08-2018, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by raspritz
To all: Thanks for the info. Here is what they are quoting: LN IMS UPGRADE WITH TRANSMISSION REMOVED - $1,187.00
Is that informative at all? As my avatar suggests, I know early air-cooled Porsches fairly well, but on my 997 I have never attempted anything more complex than changing the oil or replacing the brakes.
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Old 05-09-2018, 02:08 AM
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To all,
Man, you guys are great. I called the dealership, and the service rep (who'd been away yesterday when a surrogate called me) confirmed what you said; that '07 997s already have the 'upgraded' IMS, and that the tech who had made the recommendation presumably hadn't realized mine is an '07. This is one of the major P dealerships in Denver. Let's chalk it up to incompetence rather than dishonesty. Nevertheless, food for thought.

I don't hang out on the 997 board much, I mostly look at the early air-cooled 911 section (I have a '67 racecar and a '69T). I'm not always so impressed by the "knowledge" or attitudes displayed over there, but you guys have impressed me. Thanks again, and I'll stop by more often.

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Old 05-10-2018, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by raspritz
To all,
Man, you guys are great. I called the dealership, and the service rep (who'd been away yesterday when a surrogate called me) confirmed what you said; that '07 997s already have the 'upgraded' IMS, and that the tech who had made the recommendation presumably hadn't realized mine is an '07. This is one of the major P dealerships in Denver. Let's chalk it up to incompetence rather than dishonesty. Nevertheless, food for thought.

I don't hang out on the 997 board much, I mostly look at the early air-cooled 911 section (I have a '67 racecar and a '69T). I'm not always so impressed by the "knowledge" or attitudes displayed over there, but you guys have impressed me. Thanks again, and I'll stop by more often.

Rich
'07 997 C4 cab
'69 911T in final stage of restoration
'67 911S spec racecar
Great news! Now post some pics of the new beauty!
Old 05-16-2018, 06:25 PM
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Default 2007 997.1 No IMS issues

No IMS problems with my 2007 997.1 C2S with 42K miles.
Old 05-19-2018, 09:36 PM
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What engine superseded the M96 and M97 engines?
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Old 05-19-2018, 10:05 PM
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What engine superseded the M96 and M97 engines?
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Old 05-20-2018, 03:50 AM
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Hello from new forum member. I voted YES, although this is not my car. But I have official service history for this car and am in process to buy it. This is 10/2004 Carrera S M97 engine. It had full service history and it happened to 2nd owner in Germany at 93,730km or 58,200miles on 11/2010. It had extended Porsche guarantee, so owner did not paid for it, but sold it soon after. New engine is with larger bearing judging by engine No.

Old 05-22-2018, 11:39 AM
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2005 997 Carrera, 62k, no issues.
Old 05-26-2018, 01:11 PM
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2005 997 Carrera S, 39,000km/26,000miles or so. No issues.
Original owner.
Delivery date mid April 2005.

My middle aged eyes see M97 01 68509795 as an engine serial number. From what these Revolution in the UK states, my car just has the larger revised IMS.
No oil on the floor. Fluids changed frequently. No metallic particles in the oil filter. Not a daily so it was driven with spirit in the powerband keeping oil pressure up.
Car is for sale. Do I do anything about it?

Old 05-26-2018, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
2005 997 Carrera S, 39,000km/26,000miles or so. No issues.
Original owner.
Delivery date mid April 2005.

My middle aged eyes see M97 01 68509795 as an engine serial number. From what these Revolution in the UK states, my car just has the larger revised IMS.
No oil on the floor. Fluids changed frequently. No metallic particles in the oil filter. Not a daily so it was driven with spirit in the powerband keeping oil pressure up.
Car is for sale. Do I do anything about it?

If it has the larger bearing, I would just leave it as-is.
Old 05-28-2018, 09:20 AM
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Early 2005 997 Carrera S. 75,000k, no issues

Ive read through pretty much all 62 pages of this thread, which is a little depressing! Either way, according to the chart, 30 odd pages back, I should be able to replace my bearing without splitting to case? Right? Early M97 3.8 engine? Build date was late 2004

if I was to go to a Porsche dealership and ask them to do the replacement, what bearing do they use?
Old 05-30-2018, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 997_rich
More details based on engine number
sorry, but is this right??

My information says that the early 3.8 M97 engine “cant” have the IMS bearing replaced without splitting the case!

is there actually anyone on this forum that has had the bearing changed simply? Very interested to know
Old 05-30-2018, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Tendegrees


sorry, but is this right??

My information says that the early 3.8 M97 engine “cant” have the IMS bearing replaced without splitting the case!

is there actually anyone on this forum that has had the bearing changed simply? Very interested to know
Early '05 cars have the smaller bearing g that can be changed without splitting the case. Lots of people gave replaced theirs so in not sure where "your information" may have come from.
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Early '05 cars have the smaller bearing g that can be changed without splitting the case. Lots of people gave replaced theirs so in not sure where "your information" may have come from.
My information came from Autohaus in Sydney. They have a whole section dedicated to the IMS. I sent them an email and asked the direct question. Answer, yes, can't do it without splitting the case. Either way, there are a lot of people on this forum, and I'm very interested to know whether anyone has done it. I read the "all" the pages and can't find evidence of it being done without engine tear down? More than happy to be proven wrong, as it will save me a lot of money.....

Is there anyone on this forum that has done it???? Early (late 2004) 3.8 Carrera S.....


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