Notices
997 Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

PSE or aftermarket exhausts?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-01-2010 | 12:01 PM
  #1  
backerman's Avatar
backerman
Thread Starter
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
Default PSE or aftermarket exhausts?

My 06 Carrera S has a stock non PSE setup. I'd like to upgrade and was considering adding PSE but is there some aftermarket setup I should look at. I dont need to set off car alarms ......often. Cheers everyone.
Old 12-01-2010 | 12:06 PM
  #2  
No HTwo O's Avatar
No HTwo O
Banned
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,299
Likes: 12
From: Arlington Heights, IL
Default

Porsche PSE is very good. $$$. No drone. Another advantage of the PSE, if installed by a dealership, you have a warranty, and have an on/off funtionality.

http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...de=997sexhaust
Old 12-01-2010 | 12:46 PM
  #3  
FrankyV's Avatar
FrankyV
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,111
Likes: 4
From: Southern MD
Default

I have the PSE on my 2008 S and while most here love it, I find it sounds a little too "ricey" and wish it was tuned down a few pitches.
Old 12-01-2010 | 01:02 PM
  #4  
Mike in CA's Avatar
Mike in CA
Race Director
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 12,085
Likes: 245
From: North Bay Area, CA
Default

PSE sounds great with none of the drawbacks (drone, loss of low end torque, etc.) that you can get with some aftermarket exhausts. And, of course, you can switch it off if you want to. Add in the fact that if installed by the dealer it will be warrantied for the remainder of your factory warranty and it seems a clear choice to me. I love the PSE on my car.
Old 12-01-2010 | 01:06 PM
  #5  
Edgy01's Avatar
Edgy01
Poseur
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 17,720
Likes: 245
From: Santa Barbara, CA
Default

Porsche worked hard on developing the PSE after they discovered how much 996 owners hated the mundane sound coming from their watered down 911s. The result is a very fine exhaust tone that is better in that you can turn it on or off at will.
Old 12-01-2010 | 01:08 PM
  #6  
No HTwo O's Avatar
No HTwo O
Banned
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,299
Likes: 12
From: Arlington Heights, IL
Default

Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Add in the fact that if installed by the dealer it will be warrantied for the remainder of your factory warranty and it seems a clear choice to me. I love the PSE on my car.
Mike, I am not sure if the warranty for the PSE is the remainder of the factory warranty or just 12 months. IIRC, when the PSE was added to my 987S, it was just for 12 months. Either way, it's "piece of mind".
Old 12-01-2010 | 01:44 PM
  #7  
backerman's Avatar
backerman
Thread Starter
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
Default

Great information. Thanks guys. I think this confirmed my assumptions on PSE.
Old 12-01-2010 | 02:26 PM
  #8  
alexb76's Avatar
alexb76
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,900
Likes: 83
From: Vancouver, BC
Default

For sound, you can't go wrong... although some do the PSE hack and achieve the same, at a MUCH LOWER COST!

For HP gain however, you gotto look aftermarket.
Old 12-01-2010 | 03:54 PM
  #9  
MichaelL's Avatar
MichaelL
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 602
Likes: 2
From: Panama City Beach, Florida
Default

Warranty on an exhaust system is a non-issue. Properly installed, they are completely reliable and cause no check engine lights. The PSE is generally regarded to have a good sound and is switchable, but is heavy and expensive. PSE, or most aftermarket mufflers, provide little to no increases in power. Spend your money to install proper aftermarket headers, free flow catalytic converters and free flow mufflers. Additional power, and sound will be civilized at moderate rpm's. A multitude of systems are available: AWE, FVD, Cargraphic, Fabspeed, etc.
Old 12-01-2010 | 04:42 PM
  #10  
Mike in CA's Avatar
Mike in CA
Race Director
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 12,085
Likes: 245
From: North Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by No HTwo O
Mike, I am not sure if the warranty for the PSE is the remainder of the factory warranty or just 12 months. IIRC, when the PSE was added to my 987S, it was just for 12 months. Either way, it's "piece of mind".
You know, you may be right. I was thinking of dealer add-ons done at the time of sale, not after the fact. So 12 months is no doubt correct. Thanks for the correction.
Old 12-01-2010 | 04:45 PM
  #11  
John@Fabspeed's Avatar
John@Fabspeed
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,717
Likes: 56
From: Fort Washington, Pa
Default

Hi backerman, I hope your purchase goes smoothly and either one will work as intended. Its just a matter of price, installation time and sound difference. Our setup is $2095 and I can also offer you a member discount on it. All of our products are covered by a lifetime warranty and manufactured from the highest quality mandrel bent stainless steel, so you will never have to worry about your muffler ever breaking. The installation is simple and straight forward, so its less time consuming. Also the sound difference between loud and quiet is much more noticeable and effective with the Fabspeed system. Let me know if you have any questions and goodluck with the purchase.
Thanks,

Valvetronic Mufflers Image: http://www.fabspeed.com/images/996_GT3_44.jpg

996/997 Valvetronic Maxflo Mufflers Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25yi3Z05Lks
__________________
Porsche Performance Specialist
John@Fabspeed.com
215-618-9796

Fabspeed Motorsport USA
155 Commerce Drive Fort Washington, PA 19034
www.Fabspeed.com


Old 12-01-2010 | 05:01 PM
  #12  
Harvey in FL's Avatar
Harvey in FL
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 206
Likes: 3
From: Lakewood Ranch, FL
Default

From another post.................

PSE Exhaust Hack "GUNDO HACK"

A "GUNDO HACK", is turning a stock 997 muffler into a PSE (Porsche Sport Exhaust).

This is accomplished by welding a 1.5"-2" pipe connecting the 2 pipes of the muffler.

Some would recommend something less than 2" pipe. Mine is 2" and it is pretty loud. Maybe 1.75" is the sweet spot.

It creates a much deeper and louder sound than stock, similar or better than the PSE.

This can be done by any local muffler shop for about $200.

Just remove mufflers, take them to a muffler shop and show them these pictures, and say: "DO THIS!"

Here is a pic:
Attached Images  
Old 12-01-2010 | 07:29 PM
  #13  
cgfen's Avatar
cgfen
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,777
Likes: 903
From: Vista CA
Default

Originally Posted by backerman
My 06 Carrera S has a stock non PSE setup. I'd like to upgrade and was considering adding PSE but is there some aftermarket setup I should look at. I dont need to set off car alarms ......often. Cheers everyone.
i like the sound of Tubi, available @ SharkWerks.

Craig
Old 12-01-2010 | 08:13 PM
  #14  
tetzlafh's Avatar
tetzlafh
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,023
Likes: 0
From: 40 min South from the 'Ring, 45 min East of Spa
Default

Originally Posted by Harvey in FL
From another post.................

PSE Exhaust Hack "GUNDO HACK"

A "GUNDO HACK", is turning a stock 997 muffler into a PSE (Porsche Sport Exhaust).

This is accomplished by welding a 1.5"-2" pipe connecting the 2 pipes of the muffler.

Some would recommend something less than 2" pipe. Mine is 2" and it is pretty loud. Maybe 1.75" is the sweet spot.

It creates a much deeper and louder sound than stock, similar or better than the PSE.

This can be done by any local muffler shop for about $200.

Just remove mufflers, take them to a muffler shop and show them these pictures, and say: "DO THIS!"

Here is a pic:
Looks like a modern day incarnation of the LPMM's used on the 993s.
Old 12-02-2010 | 11:14 PM
  #15  
Alan C.'s Avatar
Alan C.
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 9,485
Likes: 1,068
From: Ohio
Default

Alex,
Can you PM the member price for an 09 Carrera S when you have time?

Thanks


Quick Reply: PSE or aftermarket exhausts?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 12:05 PM.