Thinking about a 993.
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
Thinking about a 993.
I am not selling my 997 but am thinking of getting a 993. Its only a probable thought at the moment but since I have never driven a 993 I am just wondering would it be worth the bother of even looking at them.
I mean is the 997 just so much better that a 993 would not offer anything extra. I know they are not comparable cars as such I just want to know do you all think there is any merit in owning a 993 as well as a 997 other than it just being nice.
I mean is the 997 just so much better that a 993 would not offer anything extra. I know they are not comparable cars as such I just want to know do you all think there is any merit in owning a 993 as well as a 997 other than it just being nice.
Last edited by Alfaguy2; 07-18-2010 at 08:55 PM.
#2
If you have the garage space and like to collect cars.
They are slow cars by comparison. That said, they are very, very fun to drive even slowly. I have one but I also have an AMG as a daily driver. There's a big difference between those two. A 993 and 997 would be a bit redundant, imho. Unless you like to tinker and own older cars for the sake of what they are (as opposed to performance and practicality), having both a 997 and 993 doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
But again, if you have the space and an urge to collect Porsches, then why not.
They are slow cars by comparison. That said, they are very, very fun to drive even slowly. I have one but I also have an AMG as a daily driver. There's a big difference between those two. A 993 and 997 would be a bit redundant, imho. Unless you like to tinker and own older cars for the sake of what they are (as opposed to performance and practicality), having both a 997 and 993 doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
But again, if you have the space and an urge to collect Porsches, then why not.
#3
A counterpoint to Canyon's post.
I'm planning what you are considering in reverse. The 993 and 997 are different enough that I cannot consider one better than the other. The 993 has a connected feel that is lost in most newer cars - though the 997 is really close. It's small with a really short wheelbase and upright windshield which really results in a unique (and I believe) special driving experience. In my opinion, a 993 is not slow as a sub-5 second 0-60 car (171 top speed). And it's built like a tank.
You obviously know the 997, but from the vantage point of a 993 guy, I see them as faster, more comfortable, and just as thrilling in a slightly different way. An awesome car and a better daily than the 993. I want one really bad to go with my 993!
Cheers,
Joe
I'm planning what you are considering in reverse. The 993 and 997 are different enough that I cannot consider one better than the other. The 993 has a connected feel that is lost in most newer cars - though the 997 is really close. It's small with a really short wheelbase and upright windshield which really results in a unique (and I believe) special driving experience. In my opinion, a 993 is not slow as a sub-5 second 0-60 car (171 top speed). And it's built like a tank.
You obviously know the 997, but from the vantage point of a 993 guy, I see them as faster, more comfortable, and just as thrilling in a slightly different way. An awesome car and a better daily than the 993. I want one really bad to go with my 993!
Cheers,
Joe
#5
Nordschleife Master
Contrary to what many think, a 993 weighs just as much, if not more, than a 997... If I was going to consider an older 911 I would go further back and pick an early 80s model instead.
#6
That's incorrect. A narrow body 993 (c2) weighs 3060 pounds. A narrow body c2 3.6 997 weighs 3260. Of course, a 997s weighs yet a bit more.
#7
Speaking of references, I like to see the reference about the 993 being a sub 5 sec 0-60 car. The only figures I can find put the non-turbos at low 5s or mid 5s. Mine sure as hell isn't a sub 5 second car
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#8
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They're different cars, I have both... like them for different reasons and wish I still had my `87 cab. However, the 997 is more the daily driver and I use the 993 for track mostly.
#9
Performance data: Porsche 993
Model (Source) 0-60 mph 0–100 km/h 0–160 km/h
(100 mph) 0–200 km/h 1/4 mile 1 km Top speed
Carrera 2 ROW 1994
(Manufacturer) - 5.6 s - - - - 270 km/h (168 mph)
Carrera 2 ROW 1994
(Auto Motor Sport 1993) - 5.3 s 12.4 s 21.1 s - 24.7 s 267 km/h (166 mph)
Carrera 2 Tiptronic 1994
(Manufacturer) - 6.6 s - - - - 265 km/h (165 mph)
Carrera 2 3.8 300 hp ROW 1995
(Sport Auto 11/94) - 5.2 s 11.4 s 18.7 s - - 287 km/h (178 mph)
Carrera 2 US 1995
(Road&Track Jan/94) 5.2 s - 13.3 s - 13.8 @ 102 mph (164 km/h) - est 168 mph (270 km/h)
Carrera 4 US 1995
(Road & Track Jan/95) 5.7 s - 14.0 s - 14.1 @ 100.5 mph (161.7 km/h) - est 168 mph (270 km/h)
Carrera 2 1996/1997
(Manufacturer) - 5.4 s 12.3 s - - - 275 km/h (171 mph)
Carrera 2 Tiptronic 1996/1997
(Manufacturer) - 6.4 s 13.8 s - - - 270 km/h (168 mph)
Carrera RS ROW 1996
(performance car Mar/96) 4.7 s - 11.2 s - 13.2 @ 109 mph (175 km/h) - -
Targa ROW 1996
(Auto Motor Sport 20/95) 5.5 5.5 s - 21.3 s - - 172 mph (277 km/h)
Carrera 4S ROW 1996
(Sport Auto 12/95) - 5.5 s 13.2 s 23.0 s - - 290 km/h (180 mph)
Targa Tiptronic 1996
(Sport Auto Dec/95) - 7.1 s 15.4 s 27.3 s - - 270 km/h (168 mph)
Carrera 4S US 1997
(Car and Driver Jun/96) 4.9 s - 12.8 s - 13.5 @ 102 mph (164 km/h) - 161 mph (259 km/h)
Carrera S 1997
(Sport Auto 02/97) 6.3 s 5.7 s 13.3 s 22.7 s - - 270 km/h (168 mph)
Turbocharged versions
Turbo 1995-1998
(Manufacturer) - 4.5 s - - - 23.0 s 290 km/h (180 mph)
Turbo 1995
(Auto Motor Sport 1995) - 4.3 s 9.5 s 15.1 s - 22.4 s 291 km/h (181 mph)
GT 2 1995
(Auto Motor Sport 1995) - 4.0 s 8.4 s 13.3 s - - 296 km/h (184 mph)
Turbo 1996
(Road&Track Jul/95) 3.9 s - 9.9 s - 12.5 @ 112.5 mph (181.1 km/h) - est 180 mph (290 km/h)
Turbo S 1998
(Car and Driver Jul/97) 3.7 s - 8.8 s - 12.2 @ 114 mph (183 km/h) - 188 mph (
Model (Source) 0-60 mph 0–100 km/h 0–160 km/h
(100 mph) 0–200 km/h 1/4 mile 1 km Top speed
Carrera 2 ROW 1994
(Manufacturer) - 5.6 s - - - - 270 km/h (168 mph)
Carrera 2 ROW 1994
(Auto Motor Sport 1993) - 5.3 s 12.4 s 21.1 s - 24.7 s 267 km/h (166 mph)
Carrera 2 Tiptronic 1994
(Manufacturer) - 6.6 s - - - - 265 km/h (165 mph)
Carrera 2 3.8 300 hp ROW 1995
(Sport Auto 11/94) - 5.2 s 11.4 s 18.7 s - - 287 km/h (178 mph)
Carrera 2 US 1995
(Road&Track Jan/94) 5.2 s - 13.3 s - 13.8 @ 102 mph (164 km/h) - est 168 mph (270 km/h)
Carrera 4 US 1995
(Road & Track Jan/95) 5.7 s - 14.0 s - 14.1 @ 100.5 mph (161.7 km/h) - est 168 mph (270 km/h)
Carrera 2 1996/1997
(Manufacturer) - 5.4 s 12.3 s - - - 275 km/h (171 mph)
Carrera 2 Tiptronic 1996/1997
(Manufacturer) - 6.4 s 13.8 s - - - 270 km/h (168 mph)
Carrera RS ROW 1996
(performance car Mar/96) 4.7 s - 11.2 s - 13.2 @ 109 mph (175 km/h) - -
Targa ROW 1996
(Auto Motor Sport 20/95) 5.5 5.5 s - 21.3 s - - 172 mph (277 km/h)
Carrera 4S ROW 1996
(Sport Auto 12/95) - 5.5 s 13.2 s 23.0 s - - 290 km/h (180 mph)
Targa Tiptronic 1996
(Sport Auto Dec/95) - 7.1 s 15.4 s 27.3 s - - 270 km/h (168 mph)
Carrera 4S US 1997
(Car and Driver Jun/96) 4.9 s - 12.8 s - 13.5 @ 102 mph (164 km/h) - 161 mph (259 km/h)
Carrera S 1997
(Sport Auto 02/97) 6.3 s 5.7 s 13.3 s 22.7 s - - 270 km/h (168 mph)
Turbocharged versions
Turbo 1995-1998
(Manufacturer) - 4.5 s - - - 23.0 s 290 km/h (180 mph)
Turbo 1995
(Auto Motor Sport 1995) - 4.3 s 9.5 s 15.1 s - 22.4 s 291 km/h (181 mph)
GT 2 1995
(Auto Motor Sport 1995) - 4.0 s 8.4 s 13.3 s - - 296 km/h (184 mph)
Turbo 1996
(Road&Track Jul/95) 3.9 s - 9.9 s - 12.5 @ 112.5 mph (181.1 km/h) - est 180 mph (290 km/h)
Turbo S 1998
(Car and Driver Jul/97) 3.7 s - 8.8 s - 12.2 @ 114 mph (183 km/h) - 188 mph (
#11
Nordschleife Master
#12
Race Director
Do you really need yet another car that you won't drive when its wet, cloudy, windy, humid, or very hot?
You mentioned having 8 cars. Do you ever drive any of them?
You mentioned having 8 cars. Do you ever drive any of them?
#14
Yeah, I think that's much more realistic.
But why did you say it weighs as much if not or more than a 997?
I'm going to check my manual. You check your 997 manual and we'll compare those figures. Be sure to use either curb or gross weight but let's not mix the two.
I'm going to check my manual. You check your 997 manual and we'll compare those figures. Be sure to use either curb or gross weight but let's not mix the two.
#15
Nordschleife Master
My point is that the diff is within a couple of hundred pounds. There's the idea that the 993 is much lighter cause it's smaller, but it's not that much lighter. Anyway...