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10-28-2010, 05:00 PM

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I'd like to see better photos, but I'm thinking the narrower spoke on these might look generally better on the more modern 997 - especially darker cars.

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10-28-2010, 05:04 PM

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I actually purchased a pair from Eli at Wheel Dynamics. Apologizes for the camera-phone photo quality.
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Nice wheels, but I have to say they're nothing close to original, and the Otto Fuchs, Sports Classic, or the replica Fuchs racing wheels look much better IMO, two of them (Otto, Fuchracing) being FORGED wheels.

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10-28-2010, 05:12 PM

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pretty certain Otto Fuchs retros and Cali-Fuchs are both forged.

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10-28-2010, 06:13 PM

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I actually purchased a pair from Eli at Wheel Dynamics. Apologizes for the camera-phone photo quality.

Backerman, I'm from Seattle, too. What shop were these pics taken?

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10-28-2010, 07:04 PM

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Akers on Broadway

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10-28-2010, 09:33 PM

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I paid $1600 delivered on this set for street use. I was quoted $6000.00 for the Fuchs forged as they are probably lighter. But I'll just pickup a set of custom Fikses for the track days instead.

That's a big difference! Even if you trash a wheel or two, it still pays cost wise. Do you know the comparison of weights between the Fuchs performance wheels and yours? What is the link to the site you bought them from?

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10-28-2010, 10:15 PM

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Otto Fuchs is cheaper than Cali-Fuchs actually, which is interesting. Almost the same as cast Sports classics.

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10-28-2010, 10:16 PM

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pretty certain Otto Fuchs retros and Cali-Fuchs are both forged.

oops, sorry, I meant FORGED, mind slippage!

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10-28-2010, 10:27 PM

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I got the factory ones last week. Priced them from a couple places on line, then called the local dealer to see if he would match, and he did. Substantially less than the $6495 list (including new set of PS2s, TPMS, mounting, balance, etc). They may be cast, but on a street car they are perfect, look like $1m and are factory. Put them on a midnight blue 997.1tt coupe.

Please post a pic of the wheels on your car. Thanks

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10-29-2010, 01:03 PM

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Who knows the weights of the stock wheels I have and aren't all our stock wheels cast?

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10-29-2010, 01:46 PM

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Guys--that's been covered many times:

Porsche 997 Wheels

Porsche Factory Carrera S - 100 lbs, 0 oz.

8x19" 22 lbs. 4 oz.
11x19" 27 lbs. 12 oz.

Porsche Factory Carrera Classic - 104 lbs, 10 oz.

8x19" 23 lbs. 10 oz.
11x19" 28 lbs. 11 oz.

Porsche Factory Carrera Sport Design - 104 lbs, 12 oz.

8x19" 24 lbs. 3 oz.
11x19" 28 lbs. 3 oz.

Porsche Factory Carrera Sport - 106 lbs, 12 oz.

8.5x19" 24 lbs. 2 oz.
11.5x19" 29 lbs. 4 oz.

Forged Turbo Wheels - 102 lbs, 12 ozs.

8.5x19" 23 lbs. 8 oz
11x19" 27 lbs. 14 oz.

Porsche Factory 997 Turbo
8.5x19” 23 lbs. 14 oz.
11x19” 28 lbs. 13 oz.

Porsche 997 GT3 - 110 lbs, 4 ozs.

8.5x19" 24 lbs. 5 oz.
12x19" 30 lbs. 13 oz.

Porsche 997 19" Sport Classic (cast)

Front : 8,5J x 19 ET55 weight : 11,5kg (25.3lbs)
Rear: 11,5J x 19 ET50 weight : 14,4kg (31.68lbs)

Otto Fuchs Sport Classic forged
8.5 x 19 ET56 23.14 lbs
11 x 19 ET51 25.35 lbs

Fuchs Racing

Volks TE37
8.5x19 F (20.5)
11.5x19 R (22)

Fikse Profil 13
9x18 ET51 18 lbs
12x18 ET64 20 lbs

8x19 (987, 997 non turbo front) 23.4 pounds
8.5x19 (997 turbo front) 23.9 pounds

9.5x19 (987 rear) 25 pounds
11x19 (997 turbo rear) 28.8 pounds

19x8.5 and 19x11 HRE Monoblocks (21#, 24#)

VOLK TE-37
8.5 ET51 x 19 (20 lbs)
11 ET62 x 19 (22 lbs)

Carrera III Wheel Weights

996 Light weight wheels (18s)
8x18 19 lbs
10x18 22 lbs

8x18, 22.0 lbs
10x18, 24.9 lbs

Volk TE37
8.5 x 19 (51) (20 lbs)
11 x 19 (62) (22 lbs)

997TT ADV5.1 Forged
9 x 20 20 lbs
12 x 20 24 lbs/

360 Forged CR

8.0 x 19 19.9
8.5 x 19 20..3 lbs
11 x 19 22.4
11.5 x19 22/9 lbs
12 x 19 23.4 lbs

http://members.rennlist.com/911pcars/WheelWts.html

Tire Weights:

Potenza RE050A 24/32
ContiSporrtContact 2 21/29
Pilot Sport PS2 22/28
P Zero Rosso 22/28
Advan Sport 24/30

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10-29-2010, 02:10 PM

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Guys Im having a mObridge installed today. I'll take more photos this weekend. Apologizes for the delay. I've also heard somewhere that the factory sport classic fuch from Porsche will be available next year for narrow body cars as well. Can anyone confirm if thats true?

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10-29-2010, 02:57 PM

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Thanks for reposting that! Every time I read one of these posts it's a HUGE eye-opener, as it's easy to forget that our cars have 200+ pounds of unsprung weight to deal with BEFORE adding in the hubs, rotors, brakes, etc...

Of course, the way mind works this makes me want to figure out the overall unsprung weight figure on a C2S. If I'm not mistaken, the PCCBs save 38 pounds in total unsprung weight. Saving nearly 10 pounds per corner is really huge from a percentage standpoint.

Sorry if that's OT, and I don't want to start another war over the wisdom (or lack thereof) behind having PCCBs. Whether or not they make any sense financially, there's clearly nothing else you can do (that will survive on the street) that has that kind of impact...

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10-29-2010, 03:11 PM

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In the interest of helping keep things straight:

Porsche Sport Classic Wheel: Cast, gloss back, made in Italy.
Avant Garde Wheel: Cast, gloss black, Porsche Sport Classic knock-off, made in China.
Otto Fuchs KG: Drop-forged, satin black, unique design interpretation, made in Germany.
Fuchs Performance Group: Drop-forged, various finishes incl. two-tone, made in California.