Fuchs Fuchs and more Fuchs
10-09-2010, 01:03 PM
#76
Three Wheelin'
That's the problem so far - and my point with the gallery - I just can't really tell how the wheels look. The Otto Fuchs version looks the best in photos, with PAG a close second. The Cali Fuchs, I just can't tell - too "stylized" in the photos. But I do like their color options.
If you want "real" Fuchs wheels, their are a few choices - the PAG turbo wheels are forged Fuchs and there's also the retro "Fuchs style" from Otto Fuchs - although, I wonder about the offsets - they only appear to make one rear, but imply on their WEB that it works for all 997.
But for those looking for the style and not so worried about where they come from, as long as they are quality, there are a few choices now - seems like a good thing.
If you want "real" Fuchs wheels, their are a few choices - the PAG turbo wheels are forged Fuchs and there's also the retro "Fuchs style" from Otto Fuchs - although, I wonder about the offsets - they only appear to make one rear, but imply on their WEB that it works for all 997.
But for those looking for the style and not so worried about where they come from, as long as they are quality, there are a few choices now - seems like a good thing.
10-09-2010, 06:37 PM
#77
Looks wise, I still like the PAG version the best. Waiting for the non-wide body version. For looks, my next choice would be the Otto Fuchs. The Cali Fuchs, might be the best from a performance stand point, but I find the wind mills don't look quite right for my taste.
10-10-2010, 01:56 AM
#78
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That's the problem so far - and my point with the gallery - I just can't really tell how the wheels look. The Otto Fuchs version looks the best in photos, with PAG a close second. The Cali Fuchs, I just can't tell - too "stylized" in the photos. But I do like their color options.
10-10-2010, 02:05 AM
#79
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What you do not realize is the the Fuchs Racing group in the USA acquired that trademark for use in the USA many many years ago. The only thing that I believe they could be guilty of is is being late to the party. They were the first to envisage a remake of the classic Fuchs windmill wheel for the modern cars and began designing them about 3 years ago. At the same time they began to secure contracts for manufacturing them within a major drop-forging manufacturing company. That takes a significant lead time. Any Chinese job-shop can ramp up quickly to produce a cast version of those wheels and crank them out way before any forging shop can. There is strictly no investment cost comparison. The Fuchs Racing guys recognized that many would pay for the classic look, revised for the newer cars and brakes, and pay the premium for them. Even Otto Fuchs got back into the business once they lost their contract to Porsche to produce the version on the Sport Classic.
If anything Fuchs Racing didn't judge how quickly that wheel would catch on with those of us with the newer cars.
The other issue which i believe is significant, is economic. In today's economy, I have to hand it to the Fuchs Racing guys in that those wheels are wholly produced in Southern California. You are helping the US economy by purchasing them here rather than going to Otto for him. At some point I would like to lay each of these wheels by each other and then you will be able to see the differences.
If anything Fuchs Racing didn't judge how quickly that wheel would catch on with those of us with the newer cars.
The other issue which i believe is significant, is economic. In today's economy, I have to hand it to the Fuchs Racing guys in that those wheels are wholly produced in Southern California. You are helping the US economy by purchasing them here rather than going to Otto for him. At some point I would like to lay each of these wheels by each other and then you will be able to see the differences.
I just WISH they didn't use the Fuch name in the way they did... could have used Fox maybe? or whatever else. Just reading this thread shows you how much confusion there is understanding who is "Fuchs Racing"?
Anyhow, love to see the ACTUAL wheels once to see how they are made/look like as at least in the pics, the Otto ones look better.
10-12-2010, 07:20 AM
#80
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As it turns out, the wheels shown in the previous ebay ad are made by Avant Garde, a well respected wheel manufacturer. See the link to their "Classic" wheel here:
http://www.avantgardewheels.com/ruge...sic-wheel.html
Wheel Dynamics has a helluva deal going right now.. and I'm about as close as a guy can be to pulling the trigger on a set. I'm going to call Eli at WD today to discuss the wheels. If they're as advertised, I'll have a set moving to NC this week.
I'm not one of those guys who feels that you have to spend $5+K to get a decent set of aftermarket wheels. I don't intend to track day the car, and I don't intend to slam it into a curb.. (and if I did, the last thing I'd be worrying about is a broken wheel). I just like the Fuchs wheel look, and if I can save a few thousand bucks by buying the Avant Garde wheels, I'll do it.
I'll post some pics when I get 'em mounted.
http://www.avantgardewheels.com/ruge...sic-wheel.html
Wheel Dynamics has a helluva deal going right now.. and I'm about as close as a guy can be to pulling the trigger on a set. I'm going to call Eli at WD today to discuss the wheels. If they're as advertised, I'll have a set moving to NC this week.
I'm not one of those guys who feels that you have to spend $5+K to get a decent set of aftermarket wheels. I don't intend to track day the car, and I don't intend to slam it into a curb.. (and if I did, the last thing I'd be worrying about is a broken wheel). I just like the Fuchs wheel look, and if I can save a few thousand bucks by buying the Avant Garde wheels, I'll do it.
I'll post some pics when I get 'em mounted.
10-13-2010, 02:57 AM
#81
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As it turns out, the wheels shown in the previous ebay ad are made by Avant Garde, a well respected wheel manufacturer. See the link to their "Classic" wheel here:
http://www.avantgardewheels.com/ruge...sic-wheel.html
Wheel Dynamics has a helluva deal going right now.. and I'm about as close as a guy can be to pulling the trigger on a set. I'm going to call Eli at WD today to discuss the wheels. If they're as advertised, I'll have a set moving to NC this week.
I'm not one of those guys who feels that you have to spend $5+K to get a decent set of aftermarket wheels. I don't intend to track day the car, and I don't intend to slam it into a curb.. (and if I did, the last thing I'd be worrying about is a broken wheel). I just like the Fuchs wheel look, and if I can save a few thousand bucks by buying the Avant Garde wheels, I'll do it.
I'll post some pics when I get 'em mounted.
http://www.avantgardewheels.com/ruge...sic-wheel.html
Wheel Dynamics has a helluva deal going right now.. and I'm about as close as a guy can be to pulling the trigger on a set. I'm going to call Eli at WD today to discuss the wheels. If they're as advertised, I'll have a set moving to NC this week.
I'm not one of those guys who feels that you have to spend $5+K to get a decent set of aftermarket wheels. I don't intend to track day the car, and I don't intend to slam it into a curb.. (and if I did, the last thing I'd be worrying about is a broken wheel). I just like the Fuchs wheel look, and if I can save a few thousand bucks by buying the Avant Garde wheels, I'll do it.
I'll post some pics when I get 'em mounted.
10-27-2010, 06:51 PM
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I can't tell from the photos, do your wheels have polished rims?
Now I'm getting itchy to get mine installed...
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10-27-2010, 07:07 PM
#86
Drifting
The look great, but aren't they cast and heavy??
10-27-2010, 08:25 PM
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10-28-2010, 01:21 AM
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They are cast but not heavy. Hopefully modern cast technology has improved significantly. Only time will tell but for the money even road rash doesn't bother me as these are cheap enough to be replaced. I opted for the non-polished lip version.
10-28-2010, 09:48 AM
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how much is a 19" set w/o tires and how does the weight compare to the Fuchs performance forged ones?
10-28-2010, 01:55 PM
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I paid $1600 delivered on this set for street use. I was quoted $6000.00 for the Fuchs forged as they are probably lighter. But I'll just pickup a set of custom Fikses for the track days instead.