Vandalism - best way to handle it? (in retrospect)
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OTOH, Imagine what they say about us!
Think of them as unruly pets. They can't help it: they've had bad training. What can you do?
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As a long time Porsche owner, I can assure you that there are many out there who are envious of the owners of Porsche automobiles. They often times merely make a negative comment or joke, or will do something physical to express their envy. I understand that class envy has gotten nearly out of control in the UK. We have seen a substantial amount of vandalism in the UK to Porsche cars. The generation of people who want to work hard to afford to buy one of these is long gone. It seems we have more who would rather belittle someone who owns a Porsche than to aspire to greatness and success to be personally able to buy one. You may exclude the generations of 'trust fund babies' from these discussions. The end result is that at sometime or another you will fall victim to these sociopaths. You should never take it personally because your car just happened to be convenient to these degenerates. Simply demonstrate your maturity by recognizing that these people are disturbed and that so matter what is done it can be corrected. Man built these machines, and man can repair them. If you let something like this affect your emotions you will have fallen victim to their tactics.
#20
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Of course if a car is vandalized it's not the end of the world as Edgy01 says, but as Alfaguy2 says one should not cave like a duck in front of these low-lives. Taking a non-chalant attitude re this issue, as some expressed, is very PC but it sends the wrong message to the evil-doers.
It's nice to see a LEO such as Alfaguy2 in this forum with the correct attitude. :thumbs:
It's nice to see a LEO such as Alfaguy2 in this forum with the correct attitude. :thumbs:
#21
Yeah, that's interesting. I have this fantasy going that if I ever see somebody carelessly smacking my door with their door I will kick their door in right then and there and then just leave.
Of course every situation should be evaluated, if it's a frazzled mother with two kids I won't add to her problems. Same thing if it's a Hell's Angel.
Of course every situation should be evaluated, if it's a frazzled mother with two kids I won't add to her problems. Same thing if it's a Hell's Angel.
#22
Burning Brakes
Dan,
You don't have to go across the pond to look at class envy, entitlement, want it now mentality...its been happening in this country for a few years and encouraged by our government.
I remember in 1991 living in Simi Valley, a country red neck hickish town in those days where most had pick up trucks. My wife could not start her MB SEL and this thirty something couple says out loud " he should have bought American". Turned out that it was a bad battery...it was a Delco not a MB battery!
abe
You don't have to go across the pond to look at class envy, entitlement, want it now mentality...its been happening in this country for a few years and encouraged by our government.
I remember in 1991 living in Simi Valley, a country red neck hickish town in those days where most had pick up trucks. My wife could not start her MB SEL and this thirty something couple says out loud " he should have bought American". Turned out that it was a bad battery...it was a Delco not a MB battery!
abe
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I have an egg mark on my driver door that can only be fixed with a repaint. Why anyone would go through the trouble of throwing an egg at a car is beyond me.
Just yesterday I was telling my wife about how out of control the general public is getting. I said that in response to a woman in an old Toyota who aggressively blocked me from entering traffic from a store so that I would not get ahead of her.
Seems to me that the bad economy is getting to people. Peaceful coexistence is starting to be hard to find. There is a tear in the social fabric.
On the other hand, I have had waves reciprocated from the last 5 911 drivers I've come across. It's been nice.
I can only do my part...
-T
Just yesterday I was telling my wife about how out of control the general public is getting. I said that in response to a woman in an old Toyota who aggressively blocked me from entering traffic from a store so that I would not get ahead of her.
Seems to me that the bad economy is getting to people. Peaceful coexistence is starting to be hard to find. There is a tear in the social fabric.
On the other hand, I have had waves reciprocated from the last 5 911 drivers I've come across. It's been nice.
I can only do my part...
-T
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The press and Govt is instrumental in inflaming this to each escalating level of angst.
The issue of class envy is way WAY over the top, and I believe it is intentionally inflamed.
I'm sure in the UK it's hideous. But when a govt over-spends, and WAY over taxes (both citizens and private enterprise) the have nots become increasingly resentful... so much so that
a. they give up in trying to achieve because it is so far out of reach to do so (the system becomes rigged)
b. and in their anger that they CAN'T step-up, they lash out at those that have
c. so much to that those are fortunate enough to have $$ but are not a part of the Elite upper-crust (who all have adequate security); will play down their wealth and not have nice things, so that they won't be trashed by the indignant masses of "have-not, and never wills"
Peasants and Serfs.
But I digress. Sorry. Now back to our favorite cars...
The issue of class envy is way WAY over the top, and I believe it is intentionally inflamed.
I'm sure in the UK it's hideous. But when a govt over-spends, and WAY over taxes (both citizens and private enterprise) the have nots become increasingly resentful... so much so that
a. they give up in trying to achieve because it is so far out of reach to do so (the system becomes rigged)
b. and in their anger that they CAN'T step-up, they lash out at those that have
c. so much to that those are fortunate enough to have $$ but are not a part of the Elite upper-crust (who all have adequate security); will play down their wealth and not have nice things, so that they won't be trashed by the indignant masses of "have-not, and never wills"
Peasants and Serfs.
But I digress. Sorry. Now back to our favorite cars...
#26
Over here (in Ireland) open displays of wealth and consumerism is generally frowned upon no doubt partly caused by years of catholic teachings which degraded the rich and championed the poor.
I am the only person as far as I know in my town (10,000 - 12,000) who owns a 911 and I am not wealthy.
Of course there are many here who could afford a fleet of brand new 911's but they drive around in Toyota's and VW's because they don't want people to think they are show off's.
I am sure some resent my purchase of a 911 but I do not care. What saddened me most of all was the reaction of some 911 owners who seemed to think I (a police sergeant) had 'gone above my station' by buying the car - thankfully again that does not really bother me that much either.
I am the only person as far as I know in my town (10,000 - 12,000) who owns a 911 and I am not wealthy.
Of course there are many here who could afford a fleet of brand new 911's but they drive around in Toyota's and VW's because they don't want people to think they are show off's.
I am sure some resent my purchase of a 911 but I do not care. What saddened me most of all was the reaction of some 911 owners who seemed to think I (a police sergeant) had 'gone above my station' by buying the car - thankfully again that does not really bother me that much either.
#27
Drifting
Well, say what you want about "BP" - not that I am defending them. But that same anti-corporate sentiment drilled into americans, the demonization of corporations, anything in the private sector that represents wealth (except for the entertainment industry, who is "on board" politically), the attacks on "the rich" - its the fostering of that sentiment that caused the persons you describe to go after your car. A Porsche represents these ideals which are being demonized, and the american culture says its OK to target it.
Get used to it, its only going to get worse.
Get used to it, its only going to get worse.
#29
Humans are such nasty little creatures. That's why they're not getting anywhere on this planet, much less the rest of the Universe.
#30
had my car vandalized in recent weeks. There is no excuse and I wish Karma pays a visit to whoever does this type of things. We should worry about helping others, not hurting others