$285 for oil change!
03-24-2010, 07:43 PM
#16
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It's entirely up to each owner, however, I agree with this.
Why not spend a couple bucks and make sure it's done correctly.
We're talking about $100,000 ++ cars here.
In addition, as stated, it's not free to do it yourself with the supplies
you need to purchase.
Plus, if you're able to own a 997, your hourly time has to be worth something.
Also, consider the cost of ruining your Brooks Brothers oxford shirt, your
Polo Chinos, and your Brooks Brothers shell cordovan tassel loafers.
Why not spend a couple bucks and make sure it's done correctly.
We're talking about $100,000 ++ cars here.
In addition, as stated, it's not free to do it yourself with the supplies
you need to purchase.
Plus, if you're able to own a 997, your hourly time has to be worth something.
Also, consider the cost of ruining your Brooks Brothers oxford shirt, your
Polo Chinos, and your Brooks Brothers shell cordovan tassel loafers.
Even wanna be snobs such as yourself can probably find a pair of old jeans and a t-shirt.
03-24-2010, 08:01 PM
#18
Also, nowadays it will show up on your carfax that you had a service at an authorized dealer. This is good not only for resale but also if you had any major problem with the car down the road where PCNA wanted to look into the service history, they could verift the date and nature of the service.
Also, aftermarket warranties "require" that any service be done by a qualified shop. I am not saying you cant do the oil change yourself but it may not meet the requirement of some of the warranty contracts.
Also, aftermarket warranties "require" that any service be done by a qualified shop. I am not saying you cant do the oil change yourself but it may not meet the requirement of some of the warranty contracts.
03-24-2010, 08:09 PM
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03-24-2010, 09:13 PM
#20
Burning Brakes
I run a 18 bay shop and can tell you that there is nothing special that a dealer can do 'while they're in there'. Jack the car up, check for free play on the wheels (grab at 12 and 6 - shake, grab at 9 and 3 - shake), check the air filter (change at around 15-20,000 mi depending on environment), drain oil, remove filter (wrench can be bought at any shop), replace seal on filter, torque to 19 ft/lbs, replace drain plug with new washer, torque to 37 ft/lbs, fill with 7 Litres of oil, check oil, top up again (if required, will probably take 8-8.5L).
Last but not least, check the torque on all your wheel nuts
Last but not least, check the torque on all your wheel nuts
03-24-2010, 09:51 PM
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I just don't understand those that think the dealer does something magically special when changing the oil. I guess it's the justification needed to fork over $200+.
My car has never seen the stealership for an oil change..I've done them all myself.
03-24-2010, 10:22 PM
#22
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This will be the first oil change that I will ever have done at a dealership, but also this is my first $100k+ car and 911 for that matter. I feel that a car of this nature should be taken to the dealership, because if something goes wrong from it, their is no finger pointing, it's on Porsche. I will be 40 in a week and have never changed the oil on a car myself and not about to learn on my 911!
I am great w/ motorcycles and used to tear down engines even as a kid. I changed pistons, rings, reeds, pipes, oil changes, etc, etc, but never carried those mechanical skills into cars. I guess the lack of easy access turned me off. Motorcycles are like a broad that has easy access! Also I do not have the time to do it myself, I am lucky if I have the time to drive it. I have a wife, 3 kids (5 and younger) and own a large construction company, so "me" time is very limited. Anybody from the nyc metro area here? Saturday we are doing a Vineyard run in the Hamptons on Long Island.
I am great w/ motorcycles and used to tear down engines even as a kid. I changed pistons, rings, reeds, pipes, oil changes, etc, etc, but never carried those mechanical skills into cars. I guess the lack of easy access turned me off. Motorcycles are like a broad that has easy access! Also I do not have the time to do it myself, I am lucky if I have the time to drive it. I have a wife, 3 kids (5 and younger) and own a large construction company, so "me" time is very limited. Anybody from the nyc metro area here? Saturday we are doing a Vineyard run in the Hamptons on Long Island.
03-24-2010, 10:30 PM
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This will be the first oil change that I will ever have done at a dealership, but also this is my first $100k+ car and 911 for that matter. I feel that a car of this nature should be taken to the dealership, because if something goes wrong from it, their is no finger pointing, it's on Porsche. I will be 40 in a week and have never changed the oil on a car myself and not about to learn on my 911!
I am great w/ motorcycles and used to tear down engines even as a kid. I changed pistons, rings, reeds, pipes, oil changes, etc, etc, but never carried those mechanical skills into cars. I guess the lack of easy access turned me off. Motorcycles are like a broad that has easy access! Also I do not have the time to do it myself, I am lucky if I have the time to drive it. I have a wife, 3 kids (5 and younger) and own a large construction company, so "me" time is very limited. Anybody from the nyc metro area here? Saturday we are doing a Vineyard run in the Hamptons on Long Island.
I am great w/ motorcycles and used to tear down engines even as a kid. I changed pistons, rings, reeds, pipes, oil changes, etc, etc, but never carried those mechanical skills into cars. I guess the lack of easy access turned me off. Motorcycles are like a broad that has easy access! Also I do not have the time to do it myself, I am lucky if I have the time to drive it. I have a wife, 3 kids (5 and younger) and own a large construction company, so "me" time is very limited. Anybody from the nyc metro area here? Saturday we are doing a Vineyard run in the Hamptons on Long Island.
Ultimately though, us DIY'ers use the same oil and filters, oil plugs and torque settings as the dealership.
As far as the time, the way I analyzed it is by the time I drive to the dealership, check-in, wait in their lounge for them to finish (or get a loaner and all that paperwork), check out (pay), I could have done 4 or 5 oil changes myself.
Enjoy your machine....they are awesome cars!!
03-24-2010, 10:34 PM
#24
Drifting
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Your points are well taken. Somehow on a 100K car it needs to be pampered.
Ultimately though, us DIY'ers use the same oil and filters, oil plugs and torque settings as the dealership.
As far as the time, the way I analyzed it is by the time I drive to the dealership, check-in, wait in their lounge for them to finish (or get a loaner and all that paperwork), check out (pay), I could have done 4 or 5 oil changes myself.
Enjoy your machine....they are awesome cars!!
Ultimately though, us DIY'ers use the same oil and filters, oil plugs and torque settings as the dealership.
As far as the time, the way I analyzed it is by the time I drive to the dealership, check-in, wait in their lounge for them to finish (or get a loaner and all that paperwork), check out (pay), I could have done 4 or 5 oil changes myself.
Enjoy your machine....they are awesome cars!!
03-24-2010, 10:41 PM
#26
Burning Brakes
As always someone has to show up and tell us how their time is so valuable that they will take it to the dealership....and since the car cost so much it must be taken to the dealership.
Good bless their ignorance.....and wealth. With so much on this topic....next time someone once to discuss it, do a search first.
abe
Good bless their ignorance.....and wealth. With so much on this topic....next time someone once to discuss it, do a search first.
abe
03-24-2010, 10:43 PM
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You know, I thought about it a little more (great topic) and I think one of the main reasons I do what I can do myself (limited) is it's relaxing to me.
My profession can be stressful, so when I do menial jobs like reloading bullets, mowing my lawns or minor car maintenance, it actually relaxes me while giving me that "I just accomplished something" feeling.
Weird.
03-24-2010, 10:45 PM
#28
This will be the first oil change that I will ever have done at a dealership, but also this is my first $100k+ car and 911 for that matter. I feel that a car of this nature should be taken to the dealership, because if something goes wrong from it, their is no finger pointing, it's on Porsche. I will be 40 in a week and have never changed the oil on a car myself and not about to learn on my 911!
I am great w/ motorcycles and used to tear down engines even as a kid. I changed pistons, rings, reeds, pipes, oil changes, etc, etc, but never carried those mechanical skills into cars. I guess the lack of easy access turned me off. Motorcycles are like a broad that has easy access! Also I do not have the time to do it myself, I am lucky if I have the time to drive it. I have a wife, 3 kids (5 and younger) and own a large construction company, so "me" time is very limited. Anybody from the nyc metro area here? Saturday we are doing a Vineyard run in the Hamptons on Long Island.
I am great w/ motorcycles and used to tear down engines even as a kid. I changed pistons, rings, reeds, pipes, oil changes, etc, etc, but never carried those mechanical skills into cars. I guess the lack of easy access turned me off. Motorcycles are like a broad that has easy access! Also I do not have the time to do it myself, I am lucky if I have the time to drive it. I have a wife, 3 kids (5 and younger) and own a large construction company, so "me" time is very limited. Anybody from the nyc metro area here? Saturday we are doing a Vineyard run in the Hamptons on Long Island.
03-24-2010, 11:19 PM
#29
Burning Brakes
You're welcome.
You know, I thought about it a little more (great topic) and I think one of the main reasons I do what I can do myself (limited) is it's relaxing to me.
My profession can be stressful, so when I do menial jobs like reloading bullets, mowing my lawns or minor car maintenance, it actually relaxes me while giving me that "I just accomplished something" feeling.
Weird.
You know, I thought about it a little more (great topic) and I think one of the main reasons I do what I can do myself (limited) is it's relaxing to me.
My profession can be stressful, so when I do menial jobs like reloading bullets, mowing my lawns or minor car maintenance, it actually relaxes me while giving me that "I just accomplished something" feeling.
Weird.
03-25-2010, 12:10 AM
#30
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You know, I thought about it a little more (great topic) and I think one of the main reasons I do what I can do myself (limited) is it's relaxing to me.
My profession can be stressful, so when I do menial jobs like reloading bullets, mowing my lawns or minor car maintenance, it actually relaxes me while giving me that "I just accomplished something" feeling.
Weird.
My profession can be stressful, so when I do menial jobs like reloading bullets, mowing my lawns or minor car maintenance, it actually relaxes me while giving me that "I just accomplished something" feeling.
Weird.