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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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I have the mufflers off the car and am getting ready to do the "Gundo hack" bypass connecting 2" stainless pipe between inlet/outlet pipes on the stock 997.1 S mufflers. I read that this mod was originally done using 1" stainless versus 2" stainless. The car is LOUD without the mufflers and this got me to thinking that I might be happier using the 1" pipe v.s. 2" pipe. I am intersted primarily in TONE and not in LOUDNESS. Anyone done this mod using the 1" stainless pipe or heard a car with the 1" pipe ? I read that this mod was originated by Darin Fister ( fisterd on Rennlist) and he used the 1" pipe bypass. I have heard several sound clips using the 2" pipe bypass and they do sound a bit loud, at least to my ear.

Thanks for your responses.................
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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2" isnt "loud" very mild... ive done 2" on both cars...

997.1 and 997.2

sounds like PSE but louder above 5k rpm
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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I have 2" from FisterD. Not too loud at all!
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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Thanks for the responses. The welding shop will install the 1.5" stainless pipe bypass on Monday. I feel this will give me the sound that I am looking for and closest to the PSE open exhaust sound.
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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Let us know how it turns out.
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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I'm planning on doing the 2" next weekend...
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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I am very interested in this mod. If you guys could post up some sound clips, that would great.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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This is my 997.1 3.6 with 2" cross over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf0NpWNAj78

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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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FYI, 2" will do about 103.5 dB from 6 ft behind the car (at 7000 RPM)
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Can someone please post a pic of the hacked side, so iI can show my shop what it is supposed to look like when finished. Thanks
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Here you go. I've done both - the 1" will have a higher pitch, the 2" will be deeper and louder.

This is what is possible if you add AWE cats to the equation:
View My Video

Here are some pics of the finished hack:




Last edited by Gundo; Apr 10, 2010 at 08:11 PM. Reason: found a video
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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Thanks. Looks simple enough. Any warnings, or is it as straight forward as it looks?
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave in Oregon
Thanks for the responses. The welding shop will install the 1.5" stainless pipe bypass on Monday. I feel this will give me the sound that I am looking for and closest to the PSE open exhaust sound.
Hey Dave - still happy with your 1.5 Gundo hack? Any noise violations from the local authorities? Interested in Vancouver...
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gundo

This is what is possible if you add AWE cats to the equation:
Your car sounds fantastic!
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 02:31 AM
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Zeus 993: Yes, i am VERY happy with the 1-5" Gundo hack. No noise violations and NO resonance at cruising speeds. Really comes in throaty upon heavy acceleration and sounds VERY Porschelike versus many of the other aftermarket mufflers............ :-) Have had many complements on the sound by many fellow Porsche Club members and people on the street.
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