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Old 02-05-2010, 04:43 PM
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:37 PM
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WOW! It it wasn't for Panamaera, it would have been more than 25% drop in sales! and we thought last year was bad!

Cayman/Boxster dead? It sure sounds like the upper end is not affected as much (911), while lower-end is, so people who could barely afford Porsches are driven out of the market.
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Originally Posted by alexb76
WOW! It it wasn't for Panamaera, it would have been more than 25% drop in sales! and we thought last year was bad!

Cayman/Boxster dead? It sure sounds like the upper end is not affected as much (911), while lower-end is, so people who could barely afford Porsches are driven out of the market.
Wonder how much cross-shopping of models there is, ie folks who wanted a Porsche and might have bought a 911 or Cayenne, but bought a Panamera instead? I imagine there were some, which means that the 25% you mention without Panemara, maybe isn't quite that bad. Who knows.....
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Wonder how much cross-shopping of models there is, ie folks who wanted a Porsche and might have bought a 911 or Cayenne, but bought a Panamera instead? I imagine there were some, which means that the 25% you mention without Panemara, maybe isn't quite that bad. Who knows.....
But last year Q1 was horrific... do you remember? 4-500K/month job loss, etc... so, if we're doing just as bad this year with a better (supposedly) economoy, this is not a good sign!
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[QUOTE=Mike in CA;7287324]Wonder how much cross-shopping of models there is, QUOTE]

I don't know about cross-shopping, however, I have heard that 9 out of 10
Boxter/Cayman owners are cross dressers.
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Originally Posted by alexb76
But last year Q1 was horrific... do you remember? 4-500K/month job loss, etc... so, if we're doing just as bad this year with a better (supposedly) economoy, this is not a good sign!
You make a good point. I'm just saying that the bottom line is that sales were up overall by 8%. If you look at the numbers, Cayenne sales were down a lot but they sold more than enough Panameras to make up this difference. I could be wrong, but it looks to me like Panamera stole some sales from the Cayenne. Should the numbers be better relative to the improvement in the economy?.....maybe so.
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[QUOTE=At Law;7287362]
Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Wonder how much cross-shopping of models there is, QUOTE]

I don't know about cross-shopping, however, I have heard that 9 out of 10
Boxter/Cayman owners are cross dressers.
Sounds a little harsh. I owned a Boxster S for 2 years and never crossed dressed. Not saying it couldn't happen....maybe I was the 1 out of 10.
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[QUOTE=Mike in CA;7287386]
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Sounds a little harsh. I owned a Boxster S for 2 years and never crossed dressed. Not saying it couldn't happen....maybe I was the 1 out of 10.
Glad to hear you were in the minority.
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I think Mr At Law is on to something
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
You make a good point. I'm just saying that the bottom line is that sales were up overall by 8%. If you look at the numbers, Cayenne sales were down a lot but they sold more than enough Panameras to make up this difference. I could be wrong, but it looks to me like Panamera stole some sales from the Cayenne. Should the numbers be better relative to the improvement in the economy?.....maybe so.
Agreed. I think Panamera will steal sales from Cayenne for sure, and MAYBE some 911... like from those who are just posers and want a 911 for the name alone. I however don't think it should or could affect any Boxster/Cayman sales, which is SHOCKINGLY LOW!

Panamaera will however steal a lot of sales from M5, S6/S8 buyers.
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Sales of new Boxsters are probably being hurt by abnormally low prices of used Porsches across the product line.
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Originally Posted by sjfehr
Sales of new Boxsters are probably being hurt by abnormally low prices of used Porsches across the product line.
But right now the prices of new Porsches are also abnormally low...
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i wonder what happening to Chayenne sales? People buying Touregs instead?!
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Originally Posted by kosmo
i wonder what happening to Chayenne sales? People buying Touregs instead?!
Maybe it's people buying nothing instead? I mean unlike a hot two-seater, it's just a "utility" vehicle. I dunno.
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I doubt Panamera is stealing that much from the other groups and its surely got some boost because its new and picking up a new slice of the market, and I would expect sales to gradually level off after the early adopters are in. Jan last year sucked big time (that's when the market really started going into a huge dive), so I'd say Jan 2010 sales are dismal overall.


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