997.2 GT3 questions.....
#1
997.2 GT3 questions.....
been waffling back and forth on ordering a GT3 but a few things are bothering me...
A: Interior can ONLY come black or natural grey?
B: I know its a "purists" car and thats why its 6speed, but i heard rumors from a few different people that they might introduce a PDK version? does anyone have more info on this? i am a 6speed lover.. but my 997.2 converted me to LOVE PDK!... so this would be a big big plus for me.
C: the standard suspension is how much lower than base carrera? i know the pasm is 10, the sport pasm is 20, isnt the GT3 like 30?
D: i never for sure understood the widths of the 997.1 GT3 vs GT3RS.. isnt the RS wider? is this still the same now? (i know the site says all carreras' are 71.18 even the 4's but they are not.. just a mistake on the site.. GT3 is a narrow body and RS is widebody or they are all narrowbody?
E: Sport Chrono mode is listed in "audio and communications" and only really mentions the timer and personalized features.. so does this mean they all have sport mode? or sport mode doesnt change the mapping at all but just is timing and personal setting?
thats it for now..... im hoping the PDK thing is a yes for like 2011 and then im good to go for another year and surely getting that.. my PDK feels 100x better than my manual 997.1.... i cant even imagine 435hp N/A in a PDK... wow!
A: Interior can ONLY come black or natural grey?
B: I know its a "purists" car and thats why its 6speed, but i heard rumors from a few different people that they might introduce a PDK version? does anyone have more info on this? i am a 6speed lover.. but my 997.2 converted me to LOVE PDK!... so this would be a big big plus for me.
C: the standard suspension is how much lower than base carrera? i know the pasm is 10, the sport pasm is 20, isnt the GT3 like 30?
D: i never for sure understood the widths of the 997.1 GT3 vs GT3RS.. isnt the RS wider? is this still the same now? (i know the site says all carreras' are 71.18 even the 4's but they are not.. just a mistake on the site.. GT3 is a narrow body and RS is widebody or they are all narrowbody?
E: Sport Chrono mode is listed in "audio and communications" and only really mentions the timer and personalized features.. so does this mean they all have sport mode? or sport mode doesnt change the mapping at all but just is timing and personal setting?
thats it for now..... im hoping the PDK thing is a yes for like 2011 and then im good to go for another year and surely getting that.. my PDK feels 100x better than my manual 997.1.... i cant even imagine 435hp N/A in a PDK... wow!
#2
A: Yes.
B: Consensus is that there won't be PDK with the old Metzger GT1-derived motor currently running in the GT3 and GT3RS (that the new Turbo PDK no longer uses this motor is an indication).
C: The GT3 is probably about 10mm lower than S-PASM as you state, however the front splitter creates an extremely narrow approach angle compared to the Carrera models, which is what makes the GT3 difficult to use daily, and prompted the new nose-lift option.
D: C2, C2S, and GT3 are narrow body; C4, C4S, T4, T4S, GT3RS, GT2, and Turbo are wide body.
E: Sport Chrono doesn't do much on the GT3. It has a 'sport' mode regardless of the SC option.
B: Consensus is that there won't be PDK with the old Metzger GT1-derived motor currently running in the GT3 and GT3RS (that the new Turbo PDK no longer uses this motor is an indication).
C: The GT3 is probably about 10mm lower than S-PASM as you state, however the front splitter creates an extremely narrow approach angle compared to the Carrera models, which is what makes the GT3 difficult to use daily, and prompted the new nose-lift option.
D: C2, C2S, and GT3 are narrow body; C4, C4S, T4, T4S, GT3RS, GT2, and Turbo are wide body.
E: Sport Chrono doesn't do much on the GT3. It has a 'sport' mode regardless of the SC option.
#3
A) Only Black
B) Doubtfull
C) It's the splitter which is 3 ft. in front of the wheels that causes decreased approach angle
D) Sport Chrono = just a wart.
PDK, last I read, had a RPM limit on operation which the GT3 exceeds
B) Doubtfull
C) It's the splitter which is 3 ft. in front of the wheels that causes decreased approach angle
D) Sport Chrono = just a wart.
PDK, last I read, had a RPM limit on operation which the GT3 exceeds
#4
PDK, while by many accounts an amazing achievement, goes against everything in the GT3 ethos. The car is about driver involvement more than anything else. If you want a faster car than C2S with a PDK, the new Turbo should be right up your alley.
#5
PDK, while by many accounts an amazing achievement, goes against everything in the GT3 ethos. The car is about driver involvement more than anything else
Matt
#6
I am wondering if the lack of PDK in the GT3/RS has more to do with the increased weight and "placement" of that weight, than it has to do with driver involvement.
The drivers posting the great lap times, at PSDS and elsewhere are pretty damned involved, if you ask me!
The drivers posting the great lap times, at PSDS and elsewhere are pretty damned involved, if you ask me!
#7
PDK, while by many accounts an amazing achievement, goes against everything in the GT3 ethos. The car is about driver involvement more than anything else. If you want a faster car than C2S with a PDK, the new Turbo should be right up your alley.
suquential boxes for a awhile. The PDK is billed as a Manual box thats shifts automatically. This has
been on the wall for a long time. If you need any more proof look at what Ferrari has done. There 430 cars are almost all F1 boxes. The GT3 is about getting around the track the fastest. Not going around the track while performing the most physical work of any other car. The PDK was FIRST used on the track WON LeMans in the mid eighties, its ALL about the track. How many manual boxes are in Formula One?
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#8
So the Ferrari scuderia is not about driver involvement.. hmmm. Dont agree with this statement.
#9
And F1 Ferraris (street legal versions)...are primarily for posers who put 500 miles/year on their pride & joy, for fear of excessive depreciation. The GT3 is for drivers, not investors.
#12
so, to summarize i would trade the 911 in for GT3.. but i do want a second car and I've always wanted a cayenne.. so I'm hoping both the cayenne and Gt3 come PDK in 2010 and that will make my life VERY easy.
side note: its funny how ive become so used to PDK... ive been a 6speed guy my whole life.. never had an automatic and never had a 5speed manual.. i love.. well LOVE 6speed's... they just are very full of life and make you feel one with the car, but on the other side PDK is amazing in everyway and more..
#13
Had my first PDK car (09 C4S coupe) for about a month now. Man those shifts in sport+ mode are something else! Truly impressive. I'm going to retrofit the new paddle shifter steering wheel if/when available in 2010 but now that I'm used to the PDK "buttons", they aren't that bad.
#15
No. 962s were about winning races. The GT3 is a street car, for people who enjoy the maximum mechanical interaction without worrying about losing .2 seconds per lap. PDK is a brilliant achievement more suited to C2S and TT (as evidenced by Andreas Preuninger rejecting PDK for GT3...I will accept his judgement).
And F1 Ferraris (street legal versions)...are primarily for posers who put 500 miles/year on their pride & joy, for fear of excessive depreciation. The GT3 is for drivers, not investors.
And F1 Ferraris (street legal versions)...are primarily for posers who put 500 miles/year on their pride & joy, for fear of excessive depreciation. The GT3 is for drivers, not investors.
"maximum mechanical interaction?" where in hell did that come from?
i can understand an intelligent debate on the pros and cons of PDK - in fact I enjoy it - but i would challenge you to be a more thoughtful in your generalizations.