The Cayman is no 911
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No, not about the money. I think there's already been a few responses on the last 5 pages stating that it's not about a money issue. That's why I used the example of trading one car for another straight up (no trades and pocketing money options, etc.). For me, it's about the "soul" of the Porsche heritage/lineage.
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First car I fell in love with was a 356 Speedster. Always felt that car had something special. Would love to find one that was restored that I could afford to add to the garage. Probably won't happen unless I hit the lottery.
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lol... I've lost too much $$$ on my poor Dawgs in the past few years.
How about lap times at Portland Raceways?
You in your cab and I'll borrow a Cayman S?![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Seriously though - I obviously voted with my dollars and chose the C2S but I would have preferred a mid-engined 911 if there was such a beast.
How about lap times at Portland Raceways?
You in your cab and I'll borrow a Cayman S?
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Seriously though - I obviously voted with my dollars and chose the C2S but I would have preferred a mid-engined 911 if there was such a beast.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/press...S70072+31-Aug-
I had a 2002 Boxster S before this 997.2 and overall I think the Boxster is a wonderful car for the "drive". However at 6'5" and 230 the 911 is way more comfortable and a pretty damn good "drive" as well.
I had a 2002 Boxster S before this 997.2 and overall I think the Boxster is a wonderful car for the "drive". However at 6'5" and 230 the 911 is way more comfortable and a pretty damn good "drive" as well.
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lol... I've lost too much $$$ on my poor Dawgs in the past few years.
How about lap times at Portland Raceways?
You in your cab and I'll borrow a Cayman S?![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Seriously though - I obviously voted with my dollars and chose the C2S but I would have preferred a mid-engined 911 if there was such a beast.
How about lap times at Portland Raceways?
You in your cab and I'll borrow a Cayman S?
![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Seriously though - I obviously voted with my dollars and chose the C2S but I would have preferred a mid-engined 911 if there was such a beast.
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Maybe we could try this new place "Oregon Raceway Park". I know a few of you Seattle folks caravaned down there a few weeks back and thought it was a great new track.
http://www.oregonraceway.com/
At the end of the day, we should all feel lucky to be driving any Porsche's.
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...from the Cayman S discussion group.
The cover story for the October issue of Motor Trend is a comparison of 10 high performance cars including cars like the Corvette ZR1, Audi R8, and Shelby GT500.
"The winner will be a car that delivers a balance of useable performance, accessible handling, and driver-friendly design; a vehicle with a multidimensional personality that will delight and reward the enthusiast driver on any road at any time, regardless of weather and traffic conditions."
The winner? The Cayman S!!!
(They didn't have the 911 in the "test")
The cover story for the October issue of Motor Trend is a comparison of 10 high performance cars including cars like the Corvette ZR1, Audi R8, and Shelby GT500.
"The winner will be a car that delivers a balance of useable performance, accessible handling, and driver-friendly design; a vehicle with a multidimensional personality that will delight and reward the enthusiast driver on any road at any time, regardless of weather and traffic conditions."
The winner? The Cayman S!!!
(They didn't have the 911 in the "test")
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Very cool video and it confirms what I said earlier. For someone looking for a true sports car, it is the best choice. With the exception of the GT models the 911 has tended towards luxury. Out of the box, I reiterate what I said earlier. All things being equal, a Cayman S is faster around the track than a 911 (not S).
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I am happy with my PDK Cayman S cabriolet even more after hearing Randy praise it!
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We have a 997S and CS. The CS used is a great bargain, BTW. They are both Porsches and there is no mistaking that, but they are different. The 997S has the power and you feel it, the CS has the handling and smoothness. We track both - the shorter the track the bigger the CSs advantage; on a longer track with sweepers the 997S could probably take it, especially with long straights.
I think of the 997S as being like a baseball player on-deck -swinging a bunch of bats with weights. Then approach the plate with the CS in your hands and wow! You can really drive that thing. I think this shows up in Randy's video.
I don't find a significant difference in build quality, noise, rattles, etc between our two cars. Both have track seats and not too much fluff, however. A chip, open exhaust and a few other tweaks make the CS even better, and really tough for the 997S to catch. A bigger engine or blower would seal the deal, and it wouldn't upset this car like it can some others.
We like them both.
I think of the 997S as being like a baseball player on-deck -swinging a bunch of bats with weights. Then approach the plate with the CS in your hands and wow! You can really drive that thing. I think this shows up in Randy's video.
I don't find a significant difference in build quality, noise, rattles, etc between our two cars. Both have track seats and not too much fluff, however. A chip, open exhaust and a few other tweaks make the CS even better, and really tough for the 997S to catch. A bigger engine or blower would seal the deal, and it wouldn't upset this car like it can some others.
We like them both.
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I love the 911 but it's not going to win any sort of handling contest against the 987 platform.
My 986 (admittedly with PSS9) is faster in the corners than the 997s that I run with at DE....or maybe my driving has really improved! I am confident that my 986 is a faster cornering car than my 997TT,....no doubt.
I think a track prepped Cayman would be a hoot.
My 986 (admittedly with PSS9) is faster in the corners than the 997s that I run with at DE....or maybe my driving has really improved! I am confident that my 986 is a faster cornering car than my 997TT,....no doubt.
I think a track prepped Cayman would be a hoot.
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The Cayman is definitely the better platform for track use. It is a crime that the car is denuded with the 3.4L when it could equally and easily carry a 3.6-3.8L. Or a GT3 powerplant - God, if they ever made that, I'd be in so fast .. Hear me Piech ![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I have track friend who has chipped his, added exhaust, the usual mods for track reliability, and widened the stance; and it simply just goes.. very fast.. without drama.. Really makes me think on the GT3 order.
Very good car which could be an all time great with some additional power ..
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I have track friend who has chipped his, added exhaust, the usual mods for track reliability, and widened the stance; and it simply just goes.. very fast.. without drama.. Really makes me think on the GT3 order.
Very good car which could be an all time great with some additional power ..