The Cayman is no 911
08-31-2009, 02:31 AM
#61
...from the Cayman S discussion group.
The cover story for the October issue of Motor Trend is a comparison of 10 high performance cars including cars like the Corvette ZR1, Audi R8, and Shelby GT500.
"The winner will be a car that delivers a balance of useable performance, accessible handling, and driver-friendly design; a vehicle with a multidimensional personality that will delight and reward the enthusiast driver on any road at any time, regardless of weather and traffic conditions."
The winner? The Cayman S!!!
(They didn't have the 911 in the "test")
The cover story for the October issue of Motor Trend is a comparison of 10 high performance cars including cars like the Corvette ZR1, Audi R8, and Shelby GT500.
"The winner will be a car that delivers a balance of useable performance, accessible handling, and driver-friendly design; a vehicle with a multidimensional personality that will delight and reward the enthusiast driver on any road at any time, regardless of weather and traffic conditions."
The winner? The Cayman S!!!
(They didn't have the 911 in the "test")
08-31-2009, 03:56 AM
#62
For me this is pretty simple to answer.
Take a Caymen S and a 997S that are about as comparable as possible (same year, same options, same transmission, etc.) and ask the Cayman owner if he'd trade his car straight up for the 997S. Ask the owner of the 997S if he'd trade his car for a similar Cayman S. I think most of us would know the answer in these two situations. Pretty much sums up my answer to this dilemma.
Take a Caymen S and a 997S that are about as comparable as possible (same year, same options, same transmission, etc.) and ask the Cayman owner if he'd trade his car straight up for the 997S. Ask the owner of the 997S if he'd trade his car for a similar Cayman S. I think most of us would know the answer in these two situations. Pretty much sums up my answer to this dilemma.
08-31-2009, 04:17 AM
#63
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For me this is pretty simple to answer.
Take a Caymen S and a 997S that are about as comparable as possible (same year, same options, same transmission, etc.) and ask the Cayman owner if he'd trade his car straight up for the 997S. Ask the owner of the 997S if he'd trade his car for a similar Cayman S. I think most of us would know the answer in these two situations. Pretty much sums up my answer to this dilemma.
Take a Caymen S and a 997S that are about as comparable as possible (same year, same options, same transmission, etc.) and ask the Cayman owner if he'd trade his car straight up for the 997S. Ask the owner of the 997S if he'd trade his car for a similar Cayman S. I think most of us would know the answer in these two situations. Pretty much sums up my answer to this dilemma.
Is it money? Is that the answer?
08-31-2009, 10:59 AM
#64
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Yeah, I don't get that scenario either. Even someone who preferred the Cayman would take that trade. Then they could sell the 997S and buy a better Cayman S. I prefer the 911 but it's myopic to assume that that's a universal preference. Plenty of people prefer mid-engined handling and there isn't a wrong answer when choosing between the two cars.
08-31-2009, 12:23 PM
#65
No, not about the money. I think there's already been a few responses on the last 5 pages stating that it's not about a money issue. That's why I used the example of trading one car for another straight up (no trades and pocketing money options, etc.). For me, it's about the "soul" of the Porsche heritage/lineage.
08-31-2009, 02:13 PM
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For me this is pretty simple to answer.
Take a Caymen S and a 997S that are about as comparable as possible (same year, same options, same transmission, etc.) and ask the Cayman owner if he'd trade his car straight up for the 997S. Ask the owner of the 997S if he'd trade his car for a similar Cayman S. I think most of us would know the answer in these two situations. Pretty much sums up my answer to this dilemma.
Take a Caymen S and a 997S that are about as comparable as possible (same year, same options, same transmission, etc.) and ask the Cayman owner if he'd trade his car straight up for the 997S. Ask the owner of the 997S if he'd trade his car for a similar Cayman S. I think most of us would know the answer in these two situations. Pretty much sums up my answer to this dilemma.
I'm one of these guys... traded a Cayman S for a 997.2 C4S... Completely different dynamics and power. The CS handled better. The 997.2 has much more power and I really love to drive it.
08-31-2009, 02:26 PM
#69
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There is no doubt that the 40 years of 911 heritage has earned the respect it gets in the Porsche and world-at-large community, but to not equally respect the heritage of the mid-engine Porsche which pre-dates the rear-engine design is a mistake.
08-31-2009, 03:05 PM
#70
I wonder if your 997S was optioned out the way this Caymen S is, would you still be making the trade in a heartbeat?
08-31-2009, 03:12 PM
#71
^^^
That's kind of a silly comparison as others have pointed out.
IIRC the guy with the turbo Cayman has roughly $150K into it.
My C2S had a sticker of ~ 100K
A comparably equipped Cayman S would be what - 75-80K?
Who wouldn't take the pricey car and sell it?
That's kind of a silly comparison as others have pointed out.
IIRC the guy with the turbo Cayman has roughly $150K into it.
My C2S had a sticker of ~ 100K
A comparably equipped Cayman S would be what - 75-80K?
Who wouldn't take the pricey car and sell it?
08-31-2009, 03:23 PM
#72
Can we just say they 911 and Cayman are different and avoid a 'better' label? Fratricide is ugly.
08-31-2009, 03:29 PM
#73
"No, not about the money. I think there's already been a few responses on the last 5 pages stating that it's not about a money issue. That's why I used the example of trading one car for another straight up (no trades and pocketing money options, etc.). For me, it's about the "soul" of the Porsche heritage/lineage."
08-31-2009, 03:50 PM
#75
Driven one. Nice car and it does drive well. Chased one on a rally two weeks ago just outside of Salem as well and I had to focus to keep up. Again, nice car. One of my close friends also has one. He likes it but looks at it as a stepping stone before moving up to a 997. End of the day, we all have our own opinions and that's just my two cents.
Can we let Ducks/Huskies on 10/24 settle this
Can we let Ducks/Huskies on 10/24 settle this