The Cayman is no 911
08-27-2009, 06:09 PM
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I believe most expert drivers will be able to get a 997 to lap faster than a Cayman S. Whether or not one of us dudes who are "experts" only in our own minds could do the same, is another question. FWIW, I found both the Cayman and Boxster to be wonderfully balanced, highly tossable, easy to drive at speed around turns, etc. The 911 is more substantial and less cramped.
08-27-2009, 06:23 PM
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08-27-2009, 06:44 PM
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I loved my 2 Boxsters! I personally think the Cayman is ugly. The Boxster is not a girly car, more men than women drive them and the handling of the mid-engined car is why!
08-27-2009, 06:49 PM
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No sunroof (cynical), smaller engine (cynical), and no back seat (practical). And Porsche = 911 = Porsche. Easy choice.
08-27-2009, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stevepow;6853146I just assumed it would be a good bit less money than a 911....and it is, [I
Apples to Apples, [/I]MSRP: $50K versus $76K starting at "the bottom". That's 33% less money - not trivial.
Isn't math funny?
08-27-2009, 09:47 PM
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"The Cayman is no 911" - shocking news ....
I had a loaner Cayman a few weeks ago. It reminded me more of a decent BMW 3Series (maybe from the late 90s??? - whenever BMW 3s were still handling well and weren't so heavy) than it did the 911 - which was surprising - just a completely different feel, but not a bad thing at all.
....I had a loaner Cayman a few weeks ago. It reminded me more of a decent BMW 3Series (maybe from the late 90s??? - whenever BMW 3s were still handling well and weren't so heavy) than it did the 911 - which was surprising - just a completely different feel, but not a bad thing at all.
As I said before, I had no insecurities with driving a base Cayman. It just wasn't made as well as I would have liked and it depreciated like a rock ($58K sticker went to $33K trade in less than 2 years). I'd buy another one as a track car any day...
08-27-2009, 09:53 PM
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I believe most expert drivers will be able to get a 997 to lap faster than a Cayman S. Whether or not one of us dudes who are "experts" only in our own minds could do the same, is another question. FWIW, I found both the Cayman and Boxster to be wonderfully balanced, highly tossable, easy to drive at speed around turns, etc. The 911 is more substantial and less cramped.
IMO it depends on the track layout.
08-27-2009, 10:11 PM
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Yesterday, I took my 997 into the dealer to have the
pcm update performed and they gave me a Cayman with PDK
to drive.
My dad came along and we both took turns driving the Cayman.
We both thought the Cayman was fine (albeit ugly, IMHO), however, it certainly
is not remotely close to the handling, feel, and performance
of the 997.
I was really surprised to see the price increase on the Cayman--
it had a window sticker of over $76,000.00.
Window sticker to window sticker, the 997 is certainly worth an average $24k - $30k more.
pcm update performed and they gave me a Cayman with PDK
to drive.
My dad came along and we both took turns driving the Cayman.
We both thought the Cayman was fine (albeit ugly, IMHO), however, it certainly
is not remotely close to the handling, feel, and performance
of the 997.
I was really surprised to see the price increase on the Cayman--
it had a window sticker of over $76,000.00.
Window sticker to window sticker, the 997 is certainly worth an average $24k - $30k more.
But I don't see why carrera owners have to bash the cayman or boxster. Why the insecurity?
I have met several pro drivers (including some at PSDS) and when the subject comes up they all say the cayman is a great track car and the equal if not better than the carrera depending on the track.
I have gone to several DE's this year and seen many caymans put gt3's and 911's to shame.
Its still a porsche and in the right hands a great driving car.
08-27-2009, 10:44 PM
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I like the cayman s alot. I think its a fantastic platform and reminds me of the days when the 911 was lighter and much more nimble. I find when I take people out on test drives...most cant drive well enough to extract the potential out of either a 911 or cayman so I think people buy these cars to show off the badge in the driveway...sad
08-27-2009, 10:58 PM
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I like the cayman s alot. I think its a fantastic platform and reminds me of the days when the 911 was lighter and much more nimble. I find when I take people out on test drives...most cant drive well enough to extract the potential out of either a 911 or cayman so I think people buy these cars to show off the badge in the driveway...sad
well said
08-27-2009, 11:12 PM
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08-27-2009, 11:17 PM
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If you are into track, a Cayman S will outrun a base 911 any day. It is a far better handling car than a 911 without question. If pure performance is not that important, i.e. no track then a base 911 has its appeal but at a price. I would not knock a Cayman. If you feel a Cayman feels cheap next to a 911, go sit in a Ferrari 430 and make yourself sick at how cheesey the 911 is. There is no end guys
08-27-2009, 11:31 PM
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Put a better (more powerful) motor in the Cayman OR the Boxster and the 911 would be in BIG trouble. I own a 997 and a 987 and the Boxster would be perfect with a 997 motor.... In fact it would give the Ferrari crowd a real run... it's a great car and does all the right things....just needs some umphhhh!! 
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08-28-2009, 12:52 AM
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cayman handles better than a 911 period.
cayman with LSD will eat any 911 with equal power for lunch.
the only 911 i'll take over cayman is GT3 variant and only b/c the engine and the gear box.
cayman with LSD will eat any 911 with equal power for lunch.
the only 911 i'll take over cayman is GT3 variant and only b/c the engine and the gear box.