2009 997S or 2007 997 turbo
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Getting ready to buy a Porsche in the 100k range. I need back seats so the gt3 is out. The car will be a manual and will be used occasionally as I have an audi a3 for daily use. I am either going to order:
- 2009 997 carrera s (sport chrono, manual, sport susp, sport adaptive seats, rims to match color, carbon package, wheel spacers) which comes out to about 100k or I am considering a 2007 997 turbo with low miles certified (manual, sport chrono, sport seats) which is about 105k. Any opinions would be welcome.
- 2009 997 carrera s (sport chrono, manual, sport susp, sport adaptive seats, rims to match color, carbon package, wheel spacers) which comes out to about 100k or I am considering a 2007 997 turbo with low miles certified (manual, sport chrono, sport seats) which is about 105k. Any opinions would be welcome.
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The turbo's the smarter pick from a financial standpoint -- someone else has already paid for a lot of the car's depreciation. It's going to hold its value pretty well over the next few years.
I'd rather own the C2S though. It's nicer looking and RWD. I'd skip the sport chrono. That's pretty meaningless on a manual transmission car.
I'd rather own the C2S though. It's nicer looking and RWD. I'd skip the sport chrono. That's pretty meaningless on a manual transmission car.
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The Carrera is plenty,--unless, of course, you fall for the usual idiotic notion that you have to have a Turbo for some sort of status display. The DI Carrera engines are substantially less complex than the 997 TT and thus will be a far better far in the long run.
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FWIW, low mileage TTs can be purchased in the 90's now. If saving anything is not a big issue, I'd lean towards the new C2S, even though it may depreciate more in the next couple of years. But you should be able to negotiate a reasonable discount in today's slow market, as others have apparently been able to do. Good luck.
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Tell us what you thought about the 997 TT when you drove one for a comparison?
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I found the turbo lag reminiscent to my years with a 2WD turbo. Only these are heavier and the 4WD aspects are not to my liking. I grew up on 2WD 911s and found the heavier TT with the ever-present 4WD there to kick in a bit too much controlled. I'm afraid the GT2 ride would be way too harsh, yet I like the idea of 2WD in a turbo again. I understand why Porsche has dialed in the 4WD for their mass turbo customers (liability) but wish they would leave that to us to decide. Power-wise, I like NOT having to factor in lag into my squirting through traffic regiment.
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I found the turbo lag reminiscent to my years with a 2WD turbo. Only these are heavier and the 4WD aspects are not to my liking. I grew up on 2WD 911s and found the heavier TT with the ever-present 4WD there to kick in a bit too much controlled. I'm afraid the GT2 ride would be way too harsh, yet I like the idea of 2WD in a turbo again. I understand why Porsche has dialed in the 4WD for their mass turbo customers (liability) but wish they would leave that to us to decide. Power-wise, I like NOT having to factor in lag into my squirting through traffic regiment.
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I've test driven the Turbo on a number of occasions and frankly found it boring. The visceral experience is not there. "Fast" is effortless, and quiet - I want "fast" to be noisy and an effort and involving. I don't like the lag, which you can feel - it's like waiting for an automatic gearbox to kick down. And I don't like the heaviness of the awd drive system and how it affects steering feel and turn-in. all in all it's too GT and not enough sports car. But each to his own. I'm not Walter Rhorl but my personal preference is still N/A and RWD.
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Keep in mind that the TT is about to get the DI and PDK. I realize it's not quite like buying a tiptronic, but you are buying (nearly) the last TT before the major improvements come in. The DI, PDK, plus whatever else that will be out could also mean 500+ hp, so you'll have the last of the 400 something TT's.
997S PDK is the most up to date version of the car, and it's a car with no question marks about its driving history. Spec it the way you want it.
997S PDK is the most up to date version of the car, and it's a car with no question marks about its driving history. Spec it the way you want it.