PDK
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From: S. Sweden, back to West Coast in '21
If Porsche does tip for the PDK this will be one of the biggest mistakes they will have made in a long time. Paddles are the only way to go if one is in to PDK. Another issue with PDK is added weight. I believe Rohrl said that it adds an additional 40kg. That is pretty significant.
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From: New Jersey
The only similar tranny I drove was an F1 F430 last spring. I had a '99 C2 Cab tip, now an '04 C4S Cab stick, and won't go back to tip, ever, unless physical limitations mandate.
That said, the F1 was the most unbelievable experience, nothing like I expected. When you 'paddle' shift the F-car, you know there is something going on - not like the slushbox tip Porsche has - and you feel it. But the top down, Ferrari grin, and growl, certainly influenced my experience. I drove the F1 then two days later the 6sp F430 spider too. As much as the F1 was a fun and engaging experience, I still preferred to row the gears on the 6speed. And I still do on my Porsche.
I know, it does not answer the q, but the memory of driving the 430's was quite fun.
That said, the F1 was the most unbelievable experience, nothing like I expected. When you 'paddle' shift the F-car, you know there is something going on - not like the slushbox tip Porsche has - and you feel it. But the top down, Ferrari grin, and growl, certainly influenced my experience. I drove the F1 then two days later the 6sp F430 spider too. As much as the F1 was a fun and engaging experience, I still preferred to row the gears on the 6speed. And I still do on my Porsche.
I know, it does not answer the q, but the memory of driving the 430's was quite fun.
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Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Auburn, CA
I hate those stupid little thumb-pad thingys on the tip. Just a horrible, horrible design. I find it hard to imagine that they would introduce the PDK with that kind of setup instead of with paddles. IF they do, that is just disgraceful. I just find it hard to believe.
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From: Chicago
New PDK control design courtesy of RIM
I hate those stupid little thumb-pad thingys on the tip. Just a horrible, horrible design. I find it hard to imagine that they would introduce the PDK with that kind of setup instead of with paddles. IF they do, that is just disgraceful. I just find it hard to believe.
The shift controls are very precise and require thumb nail use only to shift on 50 milli-seconds from one gear to the next. So if you can Blackberry type proficiently you will be a quick PDK shifter.
And this is no BS. My dealer told me it was absolutely true ;-)
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RIM the Canadian company that pioneered the Blackberry were brought in by Porsche to design the controls of the new PDK gearbox. This is actually smart thinking on the part of Porsche as most owners are probably heavy users of Blackberries.
The shift controls are very precise and require thumb nail use only to shift on 50 milli-seconds from one gear to the next. So if you can Blackberry type proficiently you will be a quick PDK shifter.
And this is no BS. My dealer told me it was absolutely true ;-)
The shift controls are very precise and require thumb nail use only to shift on 50 milli-seconds from one gear to the next. So if you can Blackberry type proficiently you will be a quick PDK shifter.
And this is no BS. My dealer told me it was absolutely true ;-)
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From: Orange County NY
RIM the Canadian company that pioneered the Blackberry were brought in by Porsche to design the controls of the new PDK gearbox. This is actually smart thinking on the part of Porsche as most owners are probably heavy users of Blackberries.
The shift controls are very precise and require thumb nail use only to shift on 50 milli-seconds from one gear to the next. So if you can Blackberry type proficiently you will be a quick PDK shifter.
And this is no BS. My dealer told me it was absolutely true ;-)
The shift controls are very precise and require thumb nail use only to shift on 50 milli-seconds from one gear to the next. So if you can Blackberry type proficiently you will be a quick PDK shifter.
And this is no BS. My dealer told me it was absolutely true ;-)
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Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Tampa
Blackberry....I hope NOT...I hope Porsche uses their racing technology and gives us paddles like on the LMP2 Spyder!
If they do little buttons I am done being a Porsche guy and when my 2007 Tiptronic 997S is ready to go in a year or so I will be forced to move to another brand.
The drink your morning coffe, type on your blackberry, full coco leather, wood trim every where, button all over the steering wheel to control everything in the car because they are too laxy to reach for the volume ****, complaining about the stiff ride Porsche buyer can have it....see ya!
PORSCHE...are you all reading and listening....keep these cars as a real sports car! Don't soften them up PLEASE!
If they do little buttons I am done being a Porsche guy and when my 2007 Tiptronic 997S is ready to go in a year or so I will be forced to move to another brand.
The drink your morning coffe, type on your blackberry, full coco leather, wood trim every where, button all over the steering wheel to control everything in the car because they are too laxy to reach for the volume ****, complaining about the stiff ride Porsche buyer can have it....see ya!
PORSCHE...are you all reading and listening....keep these cars as a real sports car! Don't soften them up PLEASE!
Intermediate
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Auburn, CA
I am getty pretty proficient using my roller ball instead of a mouse on my computer, so I was thinking maybe they could somehow incorporate the rollerball into the the new PDK... that would be fantastic.
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I expect by the time it hits the GT3s they will have it sorted out. I might think about it then which should be 10 or 11. It will be tough: extra weight and the potential for costly failures with track use.
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