c4silver

any reason a carrera 4 isnt a good choice? live in calif, rarely in snow but love the widebody. black on black . is the added s hp significant? gotta make a decision.other choice is a 2s. appreciate the inputs
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neverpa

I am in the same quandry. I am comfortable with Audi Quattro cars, but this is my first Porsche. I am leaning very heavily toward the C4S with PCCB. With the variable weather here near the great lakes, the compromise seems to be worth it for me. I am going to drive both before ordering one if possible and have heard arguments for both the C2S and the C4S. It appears to come down to personal preference and exactly what you intend to use the car for. Since my car will be used primarily on the street, I think the C4S will be a great choice considering all the factors such as road quality and weather as well as my driving skill level. I talked with Champion Motorsports about lowering the car in the future (possibly). They said there was no problem with modifying the suspension on either car. That makes my decision easier. One person at the nearby dealership said he felt a noticeable difference in speed/acceleration between the C2S and the C4S. I thought perhaps the X51 kit would make any difference seem less noticeable, but that makes the car so close to the price of the turbo that I don't think I would do that.

pride355

If your main concederation is speed, go for the 2S. My 911 Carrera S w/ manual tranny is significantly faster than my friend's Carrera 4S w/tipt.
Also due to rear drive, 2S is livelier and more nimble on the corners. Furthermore, even 2S has very good traction on wet roads.
Your choice, but unless it is a turbo, I see no need for 4WD for 911s.

pride355

I would also like to add that I'm coming from BMW M3; I owned 3 M3s coupe; 1 E36 M3 EVO and 2 E46 M3. Some I'm little bias to rear wheel drive.

Tone

If you like 4wd and the wider butt -- get the 4S...you won't have any regrets.
Most here will say you don't need it (me included) and you don't.....that said I don't think you'll find many 4S owners who wished they'd got a 2S.

Most will say get the S (vs non Carrera)

Fun decision.

Mark618

I have driven both the C2S and C4S back to back. at high speeds. My buddy did the same. We both can say with much certainty that the C4S handles much better. If you are doing city driving you will not much notice much difference.

MMD

The way I understand it C4/S is faster on a track when it rains and better in the snow in Scandanavia, that's about it. Otherwise the steering on the C2/S has a better feel.

stetty

I have a 2S with PCCB and am very happy with it. The widebody of the 4 is beautiful, but why carry the extra weight of 4wd with less power? If you really need 4wd due to inclement weather, don't need the extra power and don't plan on bringing the car to the track why spend 9k on PCCB?

JohnnyBahamas

I put 16000+ miles on an '05 C2S and now I'm pushing 9000 miles on the C4S. Let me preface my comments by pointing out that I live in the mountains with all types of pavement conditions... often each on the same drive.

The C2S is ALL that you've heard. Awesome machine. The C4S is all that the C2S is yet with more traction, more sticky, and more grip... therefore, without a doubt, the C4S creates more confidence that she's not going to break loose when you throw her around the twisties with on coming traffic.

I never drive in the snow with the C4S, rarely drive in the rain, but I do drive roads that switch from dry pavement to patchy wet leaves to gravel etc. and I LOVE the C4S's grip and the confidence that it inspires.

There's a GT3 coming in my future and I admit that I fear the unforgiving element on the roads that I drive. The C4S is fantastic.

Now, I have to get on the B or the D train up to the 161 street station to catch the YANKEE game! Gotta book.

Bullet

The C4 will only accelerate faster than the C2S in low traction conditions on a straight line.

In all other conditions, the C2S will be faster. It also has better steering feel, sounds better, and has fewer potential mechanical issues down the line.

On the other hand, the C4 is widebody and has a pre filled brake system. One last thing to consider is that the current mechanical viscous clutch mechanism will be replaced by the Turbo's electronic AWD unit in the near future, reducing the resale value of the C4.

If you're in California, there is no doubt in my mind that the C2S is the way to go, unless you just can't live without the wide hips. For me, it would be C2S all the way (with PCCB!)

-B

MMD

As far as traction is concerned, can you make a case for 4WD with "only" 355 hp? I think 4wd with _480hp_ (in TT) makes sense for traction under normal (non-inclement) conditions.

Possible fallacy of owning a C4 in non-snowy regions: if the road conditions are bad (wet, leaf-covered, gravelly), I slow down.

nkhalidi

What's a "pre filled brake system?"

Bullet

The hydraulics are filled before you hit the pedal, enhancing brake readiness.
-B

drmatara

I believe that is also true (filled brake) for a regular S with the Sport Chrono and the Sport Button activated.

Le Chef

The C4/S have less steering feel, are much less nimble, feel heavier, and understeer much more than the C2/S. It comes down to confidence in your driving skills and those of the car. If you're less than certain of either then go with the C4/S. If you like the feeling of sliding the car and catching it, particularly in the rain, then get the C2/S. I traded my 996 C4S for a C2S and every day I drive the car I'm happy I made the switch to the C2S.