Opinions wanted on champion f77 package
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"I'm not worried about hp or torque gains - I'm simply trying to free up my 3.8 to make it rev more easily."
I agree. I replaced the Header on My BMW R1200 GS boxer engine and got that result. Long story short replacing the header did away with the CAT Converter competely. I have been seriousily thinking the way to go may be the X-51 Headers and the AWE cats. May be the best bang for the buck.
If I want more noise later add the AWE muffler as funds permit.
I agree. I replaced the Header on My BMW R1200 GS boxer engine and got that result. Long story short replacing the header did away with the CAT Converter competely. I have been seriousily thinking the way to go may be the X-51 Headers and the AWE cats. May be the best bang for the buck.
If I want more noise later add the AWE muffler as funds permit.
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Actual, dyno measured before & after results for the Champion air box would be helpful. The part is very attractive, but wildly overpriced at about 20% of the installed cost of a supercharger system. How anyone would purchase such a part without demonstrated power improvements, unless for purely cosmetic reasons, is beyond my comprehension.
In addition, assuming that the air box made real power, why can't it be manufactured in a less expensive material? The airflow doesn't care about the appearance of what it passes through.
In addition, assuming that the air box made real power, why can't it be manufactured in a less expensive material? The airflow doesn't care about the appearance of what it passes through.
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Hey Michael:
I don't think it's about any overall hp/tq gains, it's the ability for the engine to breathe freely that would make the difference for me...
That being said: a carbon fiber airbox is total freaking overkill. If Champion would offer the same box in fiberglass, I'd snag one in a heartbeat - even if it was $1,000. $3,000? That really bothers me.
-d
I don't think it's about any overall hp/tq gains, it's the ability for the engine to breathe freely that would make the difference for me...
That being said: a carbon fiber airbox is total freaking overkill. If Champion would offer the same box in fiberglass, I'd snag one in a heartbeat - even if it was $1,000. $3,000? That really bothers me.
-d