benfmd

How often do the ceramic brake rotors have to be replaced? DO the standard brake rotors last longer?

I plan on tracking a 997 S (when I get one) about once per month.

Thanks

MJones

PCCB Gen2 brakes are Phenominal!
The new design is very robust, but you will not find any published claims.

I can say this, the Porsche Driving Experience (PDE) PCCB MY05 equiped Carrera S cars logged 8,000 "track" miles at Barber Motorsports Park, driven by everyone from Pro Drivers who know proper track braking technique to course particpants who know little of proper technique.

The results of this "Test Bed" were extremely positive, NO rotor failures or replacement,
Only pad replacement.

You need to drive PCCB and Steel back to back and see the differance for yourself.

Your mileage will vary

Sign-up for PDE and experience the difference in a "real world" track environment for yourself..
http://www.porschedriving.com/

Targa Tim

I went with my 997S once on the track and the PCCB is just amazing. No fading at all. At the end of the day when some cars (including 996TT) quitted due to no brakes, my PCCB performed exactly the same as first thing in the morning, and it was a hot sunny day.

stom_m3

Don't forget the added benefit of no dust. Cleaning the wheels is so easy.

flash1034

And dont forget the added benefit of initial cost and replacement parts cost.

Flash

Deanski

Have them on my C2S, they are like anchors on a track! With the PCCB's the hats are aluminum and shed even more weight off. Wear? what wear?

Sure, replacement rotors are big $$$$ but as long as you don't take them off track if you know what I mean, they will last a long time. I do hear some teams chaning from ceramic rotors to steel at track, but keping the 6 piston calipers and adding new pads. Kind of defeats the purpose of these things!

Pedal feel is same no matter what you throw at it.

Regards,
Deanski

crg1717

i went with ceramic for the reasons listed above but also the fact that down the road they can be be replaced with regular brakes. crg

infestation

They are very robust.

The rotors on my now sold '05 launch edition looked new at 35,000 miles.

boolala

I understand that the wet performnce of these brakes is not good. That would be a major drawback from my point of view.

Edgy01

Look in the owner's manual. In there they discuss the use of a couple of alignment tools that you screw into the 14mm holes (bolt holes) on the hub to secure the wheel from slipping as you remove the remaining 3 bolts. Once the wheel is removed the guide tools are unscrewed.

Not rocket science. It is theorized that anyone who has been intelligent enough to be wealthy enough to be able to BUY one of these cars must have a little on the ball and could probably afford to pay someone to do that for them if they can't do it for themselves.

As an old Porsche guy, I would be greatly surprised to find that Porsche would pursue a brake design that wasn't equal to or better in the wet. Afterall, it rains a lot in Germany. What would make them less effective?

Dan
PCCBs on mine

MJones

Assembly aids (2) (Long locating rod) are required...however
The tools required for changing a wheel (e.g. jack, wheel bolt wrench, assembly aids) are not supplied with the car.
Your authorized Porsche dealer will be pleased to advise you. (read sell to you).

Screw in two assembly aids for vehicles with Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes.....

H20NOO

The wet performance problem I read about was when they were run through a car wash. Evidently the PCCB's have little or no bite when they are dripping wet. This condition does not apply to normal driving conditions, even in heavy rain. Onc PCCB owner said they left a car wash and couldn't stop the car... Just something to be cautious about but not an issue under normal wet driving conditions.

MC

Putt-Putt

Between hand washes I take my pccb-equiped car to a no-touch car wash. After which, my car has the braking ability of a childs sled. Two or three quick 'hard-brake-runs' are required to dry them quickly.

Azurro_California_911

Don't forget the bitchin yellow color. It's a 12 on the awsomeness scale

brickster

I have no direct experience but there was a car review when they first tested the 997S with them and the reviewer said that the stopping time in wet conditions was at times, "heart stopping."-- a comment meant to indicate that there was a lag in the stopping distance. That being said, I do not have any direct experience to confirm or not.