View Poll Results: What Machine Do You Drive For Cruising The Net
Apple - Mac OS
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PC - Windows OS
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102
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PC - Linux OS
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PC - Unix OS
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997 Owners and The Machines They Drive For Cruising The Net
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Originally Posted by boolala
The main selling point for Macs is the (near) absence of viruses.
Norton makes a pretty good product called Internet Security which has a very robust virus prevention component built in.
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Because I'm the local PC guru ("In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king") I get to "fix" everyone elses virus problem pro bono. Just did one last week for one of our employees. I can't compel people to use protection and I wind up fixing the mess that results when they don't. But it's not just viruses. There are so many security vulnerabilities in windows it's ludicrous. Every week MS is releasing patches. Personally I don't care if the reason for the (much) better security of OS X is 1) more robust built in security (which it is) or 2) lack of interest in developing viruses for this "fringe" OS because of the relatively small installed base (probably also true). All I care about is that I don't have to deal with viruses, keeping virus definitions up to date every few days and having to download MS patches every week.
After 20 years of putting up with this crap I switched.
After 20 years of putting up with this crap I switched.
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Originally Posted by boolala
"In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king".
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Speaking of not being able to compel others to use protection, I caught some nasty **** when my computer - on its own, mind you - decided to surf for free **** without adequate protection. Caught the equivalent of the clap or something.
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Originally Posted by icon
huh?
you work for dell? or the co. you work for just buys a lot of dells and gets a big discount?
you work for dell? or the co. you work for just buys a lot of dells and gets a big discount?
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.... I caught some nasty **** when my computer - on its own, mind you - decided to surf for free **** without adequate protection. Caught the equivalent of the clap or something. ....
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4 Dell's in my house, all networked, share files, printers, and internet access.
A usually reliable source told me last night Apple is switching to Intel chips because they want to run WINDOWS and phase out OS-X. He couldn't attest to the accuracy of the rumor.
A usually reliable source told me last night Apple is switching to Intel chips because they want to run WINDOWS and phase out OS-X. He couldn't attest to the accuracy of the rumor.
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4 Dell's in my house, all networked, share files, printers, and internet access.
A usually reliable source told me last night Apple is switching to Intel chips because they want to run WINDOWS and phase out OS-X. He couldn't attest to the accuracy of the rumor.
A usually reliable source told me last night Apple is switching to Intel chips because they want to run WINDOWS and phase out OS-X. He couldn't attest to the accuracy of the rumor.
Mac will keep doing what they're doing - they are slowly but very steadily taking over!
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Dual 2.5 G5, Dual 1.42 G4, 12" Powerbook (travel), 2 15" iBooks, 2 iMacs and one POS dell. Oh, BTW, I like Macs (Mac OS is based on a superior OS...UNIX and they will never go backwards into windows, aka. mac 1990). I'm a statistician!
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Originally Posted by dweiser
4 Dell's in my house, all networked, share files, printers, and internet access.
A usually reliable source told me last night Apple is switching to Intel chips because they want to run WINDOWS and phase out OS-X. He couldn't attest to the accuracy of the rumor.
A usually reliable source told me last night Apple is switching to Intel chips because they want to run WINDOWS and phase out OS-X. He couldn't attest to the accuracy of the rumor.
First of all the reason apple went with Intel was because Freescale/IBM could not deliver faster cooler running laptop processors in the power PC series and apple was falling behind in that area.
Secondly the rumor that apple was switching to Windows was started by an article by John Devorak and is pure speculation: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1925239,00.asp
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At home:
15" Powerbook
12" iBook (wife)
20" iMac (intel) - Maxtor 1-touch backup, and Sonos (GREAT product)
BTW, for all you pc guys - native windows on Mac in 2006! (No, I am not an Apple employee.)
15" Powerbook
12" iBook (wife)
20" iMac (intel) - Maxtor 1-touch backup, and Sonos (GREAT product)
BTW, for all you pc guys - native windows on Mac in 2006! (No, I am not an Apple employee.)
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What I never liked about Macs from the beginning is that they were too dumbed-down from an operator's perspective. Granted, that was their main appeal -- catering to the lowest common intellectual quotient of the masses. The user interface and the terminology used for basic operations was something that could have come straight out of Sesame Street. My colleagues and I laughed at this "toy" when it began to surface in the mid-80s. We of course were Unix power users and were one layer removed from machine language as we wrote basic program code to run on a time-share based main frame IBM computer. Remember those?
That was some 20 yrs ago and nothing has come close to replacing the Unix workhorse platforms we use at work in terms of raw computational power, though some workstations are Dell based with a version of the software we run ported to Windows. Sun boxes are still king here for R&D.
One of the main drawbacks to a Mac was that it only had one button on the mouse! That requires doing quite a bit of tedious mouse clicks for doing any kind of meaningful work. On the Unix boxes we have 3 buttons across the top of the mouse, and a skilled user can really make the application fly.
A one button mouse has got to be inefficient as hell. One of the things I like about running Windows is that most applications take advantage of the 2 button mouse feature. You can right click on just about anything and a different menu pops up, usually providing shortcuts to what you're trying to do. And one of the things I don't like about applications such as Adobe Photoshop is that it was designed with the Mac in mind. You can't use the right mouse button in Photoshop, as far as I can tell (and I'm not at all skilled in this application).
So now after some 20 yrs Apple is now finally rolling out a 2 button mouse. I wonder if software developers for the Mac will start taking advantage of this. But to me, this seems too little too late. I have a 5 button mouse (if you count the scroll wheel's push button feature) on my home computer. I can zip along the internet using my thumb for the BACK and FORWARD buttons on the mouse and the thumb wheel for fast scrolling. Does Apple even make a scroll wheel mouse?
That was some 20 yrs ago and nothing has come close to replacing the Unix workhorse platforms we use at work in terms of raw computational power, though some workstations are Dell based with a version of the software we run ported to Windows. Sun boxes are still king here for R&D.
One of the main drawbacks to a Mac was that it only had one button on the mouse! That requires doing quite a bit of tedious mouse clicks for doing any kind of meaningful work. On the Unix boxes we have 3 buttons across the top of the mouse, and a skilled user can really make the application fly.
A one button mouse has got to be inefficient as hell. One of the things I like about running Windows is that most applications take advantage of the 2 button mouse feature. You can right click on just about anything and a different menu pops up, usually providing shortcuts to what you're trying to do. And one of the things I don't like about applications such as Adobe Photoshop is that it was designed with the Mac in mind. You can't use the right mouse button in Photoshop, as far as I can tell (and I'm not at all skilled in this application).
So now after some 20 yrs Apple is now finally rolling out a 2 button mouse. I wonder if software developers for the Mac will start taking advantage of this. But to me, this seems too little too late. I have a 5 button mouse (if you count the scroll wheel's push button feature) on my home computer. I can zip along the internet using my thumb for the BACK and FORWARD buttons on the mouse and the thumb wheel for fast scrolling. Does Apple even make a scroll wheel mouse?
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One of the things that Mac has had from the begining was a set of "Human Interface Guidlines"
Key commands thruout all applications were the same ie. Save, Quit, Cut, Copy, Paste, Duplicate, Hide, etc.
In years past on wintel this was not the case, everyone decieded their own.
Photoshop on wintel had "Twister" keboard commands.
The Mac: Thumb and Forefinger,
Dumbed Down? I don't think so.
Apple Mighty Mouse
Introducing the innovative mouse that reinvents the wheel — the scroll wheel. Mighty Mouse features the amazing Scroll Ball that lets you move anywhere inside a document, literally without lifting a finger. And with touch-sensitive technology concealed under the seamless top shell, you can choose either the versatility of a four-button mouse or the simplicity of a single-button beauty.
Key commands thruout all applications were the same ie. Save, Quit, Cut, Copy, Paste, Duplicate, Hide, etc.
In years past on wintel this was not the case, everyone decieded their own.
Photoshop on wintel had "Twister" keboard commands.
The Mac: Thumb and Forefinger,
Dumbed Down? I don't think so.
Apple Mighty Mouse
Introducing the innovative mouse that reinvents the wheel — the scroll wheel. Mighty Mouse features the amazing Scroll Ball that lets you move anywhere inside a document, literally without lifting a finger. And with touch-sensitive technology concealed under the seamless top shell, you can choose either the versatility of a four-button mouse or the simplicity of a single-button beauty.
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Originally Posted by OCBen
.... We of course were Unix power users and were one layer removed from machine language as we wrote basic program code to run on a time-share based main frame IBM computer. Remember those?
That was some 20 yrs ago and nothing has come close to replacing the Unix workhorse platforms we use at work in terms of raw computational power, though some workstations are Dell based with a version of the software we run ported to Windows. Sun boxes are still king here for R&D.
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That was some 20 yrs ago and nothing has come close to replacing the Unix workhorse platforms we use at work in terms of raw computational power, though some workstations are Dell based with a version of the software we run ported to Windows. Sun boxes are still king here for R&D.
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There's also a scroll button on the new mice.