997 cylinder damage from incorrect spark plugs installed in Raby engine - what to do?
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So the Thread should read: "Changed plugs, accidentily may have had broken shot glass shards fall into spark plug holes causing scoring"
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This post is chock full o' things that scare the bejeezus out of me: bore scoring, egregious oil consumption, and self-inflicted maintenance SNAFUs. HOWEVER, I am incredibly impressed by and grateful for:
1. The absolutely generous and steady-handed input from @Charles Navarro
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2. This community that genuinely aims to help 997 owners (somewhat inexperienced, occasionally careless and perpetually paranoid) like me with their four wheeled babies.
I sincerely wish the OP a quick and easy resolution to his current issues with no further headaches down the road. And thanks, again, to Charles and the seasoned vets like @ZuffenZeus for figuring this out.
1. The absolutely generous and steady-handed input from @Charles Navarro
and
2. This community that genuinely aims to help 997 owners (somewhat inexperienced, occasionally careless and perpetually paranoid) like me with their four wheeled babies.
I sincerely wish the OP a quick and easy resolution to his current issues with no further headaches down the road. And thanks, again, to Charles and the seasoned vets like @ZuffenZeus for figuring this out.
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Groovezilla is a much nicer guy than his photo seems.
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In the OP's defense when I first responded to this thread it had a different title. In one of the first few posts the OP was told to change it to "Jake Raby rebuild has Bore Scoring".
That being said it would have been helpful to have all the facts. But my vote would be to not delete this thread. It still contains good information like the deglazing procedure and sometimes I come back to search these threads for reputable information from reliable sources.
This thread is a reminder that it's smart to buy parts only from a reputable source and always using your VIN to be sure you don't get the wrong part. I personally also would have used an OE AOS from a Porsche dealer (many sell online at cost + fixed margin) not using a kit from Pelican. Even OE AOSs have failed out of the box but on a part so important it's still your best bet. Aftermarket AOSs should be avoided. Even if the Pelican one was "OE" I wouldn't be surprised if it's from WorldPac, etc.....
That being said it would have been helpful to have all the facts. But my vote would be to not delete this thread. It still contains good information like the deglazing procedure and sometimes I come back to search these threads for reputable information from reliable sources.
This thread is a reminder that it's smart to buy parts only from a reputable source and always using your VIN to be sure you don't get the wrong part. I personally also would have used an OE AOS from a Porsche dealer (many sell online at cost + fixed margin) not using a kit from Pelican. Even OE AOSs have failed out of the box but on a part so important it's still your best bet. Aftermarket AOSs should be avoided. Even if the Pelican one was "OE" I wouldn't be surprised if it's from WorldPac, etc.....
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Your other big concern was oil consumption. All flat 6 engines either from the factory or rebuilt, will consume some oil, but if you have a failing AOS and scored cylinders, oil consumption will increase. The clearances from the FOD gouging allow more oil past the rings. And a failing AOS causes the engine to ingest oil which could eventually lead to hydrolock if not replaced. Countless threads on the subject, especially with tracked M9X based Carreras, Boxsters, and Caymans.
And yes, agree. We own a few investment properties and recently moved out of one of them and we're renting a place while we decide where we want to live. Wife found a house she liked and selling the car was just adding to the down payment. No matter how you slice it, the sale of the car was a nice addition to the house fund. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...11-carrera-41/
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If you sell it as-is, does it mean the car is not ok to drive and perform in spite of the circumstances? IMHO... no. This car could go years without any problem, but coming on a public forum to gain leverage with a title of "Jake Raby rebuild suffers bore scoring - options and help" without being fully upfront with us about YOUR mistake is just plain wrong. The original thread title and your first post implies that FSI engines are no better than the factory when it comes to cylinder bore scoring. I'm glad I was able to see through this "WRECK" (just for you Tom!) of a thread title. That's a hard pill to swallow and I'm sure some of the tender hearted on this forum will find my comment a little harsh. Like me, or hate me. I don't really care. What I do care about is two men and their companies that have spent the better part of 25+ years provided solutions to these engines.
My best advice is get rid of the car and pour your energy and financial resources into your wife and family.
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Hoping to learn, as I have a new to me 997.2. What function does the AOS perform (beyond the name), what are symptoms of a failing one, and is it a replacement item based on mileage? Am a little concerned about the oil consumption I am seeing on mine but have only 1500mi to assess. Thanks!
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As you guys can see, I decided to change the thread title. Not fair to Jake or Charles to have "bore scoring" associated to one of their engine builds when it had nothing to do with the engine they built or quality of their work or processes.
It is a Raby and LN built engine, so I left that reference in the title but removed the mention of scoring. I've also adjusted it one more time so it's clear the incorrect plugs were not installed by FSI as part of the build.
It is a Raby and LN built engine, so I left that reference in the title but removed the mention of scoring. I've also adjusted it one more time so it's clear the incorrect plugs were not installed by FSI as part of the build.
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Hoping to learn, as I have a new to me 997.2. What function does the AOS perform (beyond the name), what are symptoms of a failing one, and is it a replacement item based on mileage? Am a little concerned about the oil consumption I am seeing on mine but have only 1500mi to assess. Thanks!
you can read more here:
https://lnengineering.com/products/aos.html?mode=list
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it’s a vacuum oil separator, so it also serves the primary function of regulating the crankcase vacuum. This is why it can be tested easily with a manometer.
you can read more here:
https://lnengineering.com/products/aos.html?mode=list
you can read more here:
https://lnengineering.com/products/aos.html?mode=list